Do you recall the period of time when your present husband was on a mission for the International Cooperation Administration in Yugoslavia?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you join him there?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I joined him there. I forgot exactly the date. Right after my collection was opened, right after I finished designing--I joined him--it was supposed to be only 6 weeks, it was my vacation. But within this time these letters were sent out by my husband. I had a telegram something happened, a very mild excuse, and they have somebody else. Of course, when I returned, I went back with this firm again. But at that particular time I lost the job.

Mr. Jenner.

You joined him in Yugoslavia. What town was that?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Zagreb.

Mr. Jenner.

And you were with him in Zagreb how long?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't remember exactly, but maybe a week or 10 days. It wasn't very long. He was switched from one area to another. He worked for one company, then he was switched to another company. And then we went to the seashore, which is exactly what we wanted. It was Petrovaz, a little town.

Mr. Jenner.

And he remained there, and you remained there how long?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In Petrovaz?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I think it was a few weeks or so. Then he had time for a vacation, and we moved a little north, to Milicher. That was an old king's palace converted into a hotel. Did he tell you they had been shooting at us in Yugoslavia?

Mr. Jenner.

When you were at the shore? Yes; he said something about that. But I would like to have you tell me about it.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, we don't like public beaches. We like to be by ourselves, and we like real wild nature nothing that already will be prepared for us. So we took--in the morning we took a walk in the mountains. We climbed the mountains.
In the afternoon we took a canoe and just rowed along the coast. And it was beautiful, an absolutely beautiful coast--the most beautiful spot in the world. And the mountains--we saw something that looked like a fortification. I noticed a ladder standing there. So we were rowing and pointing to it. And all of a sudden we hear shots. We thought it was old fortifications from Italian time, or whatever they were. But they were actually their fortifications and they thought we were interested in it. They were pointing a rifle at us and shooting, and just doing this, go away further. And we had to really go very far out in the sea.
He didn't want to. He said, "At least if they shoot at us, I want to do something to them--this way we are just lost at sea. Nobody would know a single thing happened to us." He didn't want to row out.

Mr. Jenner.

Who is obnoxious?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. My husband. I said that is silly, I don't want to be shot like a chicken. Go out to the sea and we will go back to the shore. I want to make a complaint. And we rowed out. He rowed out--his bottom was raw beefsteak, on the slippery boards of the boat. The current was very strong, against us, and all the way out in the sea it was very difficult.
So when we came back he talked to some people over there. They said, "They shoot at us, too. If accidentally you wander too close to Brioni, the villa where Tito lives--they shoot at us, too." That wasn't enough. We went another day again, and we started rowing around, and we saw a little island. We left the canoe.

Mr. Jenner.

Canoe or rowboat?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. This was a canoe. The first time was a rowboat. So we were swimming and all of a sudden he took my photograph in front of a beautiful cave, and I was taking his photograph standing in the water in front of another cave. It was beautiful--just like a curtain drape. And

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