Mr. Liebeler.

and obtain it, or if you want to mail it to us at the Commission. How do you want to handle it?

Mr. Gregory.

Either way.

Mr. Liebeler.

We will have somebody from the Secret Service.

Mr. Gregory.

I don't know of any writing.

Mr. Liebeler.

We will make arrangements for someone to pick it up and we will eventually return it to you.

Mr. Gregory.

Yes; okay. I have a card also which he sent me, if you are interested, which was written to inform me a change of address to Dallas, which was dated on November 1, approximately, 1962. Those are the only two things I have that belonged to him or were from him.

Mr. Liebeler.

We would like the card too, if you would make that available.

Mr. Gregory.

All right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald mention anything to you about hunting trips that he went on while he was in the Soviet Union?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he mention any access that he might have had to firearms?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you form any opinion, or did Marina tell you anything that would indicate the reason why Marina seemed to take a special interest in Oswald, or seemed to be a special case, I think you used that terminology?

Mr. Gregory.

Yes. I could tell you--this is a personal opinion--but evidently she was kind of a rebel or nonconformist herself, and she met quite a bit of opposition because she did see Lee. And I am not sure, but I believe her family gave her quite a bit of trouble about that, too.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you remember any specific situation that she may have said about that?

Mr. Gregory.

All I know is that when she returned--she said she had written her relatives--she had an uncle and aunt and sister, and they refused to answer, and she never received an answer from them.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, did you infer from that that they gave her difficulty in connection with her marriage to Lee Oswald, or that they disapproved her decision to come to the United States?

Mr. Gregory.

I assume it was both. It is an assumption on my part.

Mr. Liebeler.

Marina never indicated specifically any difficulty that she had with her relatives?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you form any opinion, or did Marina ever indicate to you that possibly she married Oswald to get out of the Soviet Union?

Mr. Gregory.

No; I don't believe so.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you never formed that opinion?

Mr. Gregory.

I never formed that opinion. She seemed quite interested and quite enthusiastic about a new life in America, and she seemed to me that she wanted to take part in it, but she got over here and it was, she was just in one room and never got out, and she always kept saying, "When I learn English, it will be different."
She always expressed a desire to learn English, and, "Do you think I will ever be able to learn it?" And I said, "Yes." And she seemed quite enthusiastic about America.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you think it was strange that she seemed interested to learn English but apparently made no attempt to learn it? Did you discuss that with her at all?

Mr. Gregory.

Yes; I would always ask her, "What have you learned," and she would say "Nothing." And I said, "Well--" we really never went into it completely why she hadn't. I just assumed that either she didn't want to or else she really didn't have the opportunity to get out, or I can't answer specifically.

Mr. Liebeler.

She never indicated a desire to you that you should help her learn English in connection with her attempt to teach you Russian or to improve your Russian?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever discuss with Oswald the reason, or with Marina,

Mr. Liebeler.

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