Mr. Gregory.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

They all had the same trouble?

Mr. Gregory.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he indicate in any way that he might have received more favorable treatment as compared to other Soviet citizens who held similar jobs?

Mr. Gregory.

No. I think he was under the opinion that he possibly received worse than just average treatment, because I think in the Soviet Union, as I understand it, the methods of the bestowing of favors is to give somebody a good apartment, because of the housing shortage. And he complained that he did not get good housing. He lived in a poor apartment, and that he was unable to change his job or leave, because he had no place to go.
If he would leave or go to another factory, he would not be able to get a new apartment. And I think I asked him a question about are people in the Soviet Union free to change jobs and travel from place to place, and he said maybe technically but they can't because it depends on the apartment.
Then, as to whether he got special treatment, I asked Marina. I said, "Was he the center of attention in Russia," and she said he was quite a, I wouldn't say freak or oddity, but something quite unusual, and I am sure he enjoyed this fact that he was the center of attention. She said she met him at a dance, I guess in Minsk, and she didn't know who he was, and she danced with him or something, and thought he was, because of his accent, thought he was from the Baltic States, and later somebody called her aside and said, "I guess you don't know who he is," and so forth, and I guess they more or less left him alone.
I know he mentioned having several friends in the Soviet Union. One was some young fellow, I think his name was Pavel, and possibly another fellow, and I know after he was in the United States he continued to correspond with these people over there.
He showed me letters which he had written to them or which he was getting ready to send, and letters which he had received. I believe one was the son of a highly fairly influential person.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would that have been Pavel?

Mr. Gregory.

I think. I just remember something about him, about him being a general's son or a colonel's son.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember his last name?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you think you would remember it if I mention it to you?

Mr. Gregory.

There is a possibility. I believe they let me read one letter which was harmless. There was no--I mean it was a personal letter. Maybe I would.

Mr. Liebeler.

G-o-l-a-c-h-e-v [spelling], would that be the name?

Mr. Gregory.

It might be. To tell you the truth, the first name Pavel, I am fairly sure of the Pavel part.

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes; I think that is correct.

Mr. Gregory.

That is the only name I remember.

Mr. Liebeler.

You don't remember the name of this other fellow?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald let you read any letters other than the one you just mentioned?

Mr. Gregory.

No. It may have just arrived or he was explaining something about how you address a letter differently. How you put where it is going at the top, and the return at the bottom. He was showing me something, and as I recall, I read the letter, but it was just personal matters. I can't even remember the contents.

Mr. Liebeler.

You have no recollection of the contents of the letter at this point?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there anything in it, as far as you can remember, that would indicate that it was secretive or anything of that sort?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

On this question of whether Oswald thought that possibly he was treated less favorably than other Soviet citizens, there has been some