Mr. Mamantov.

Well, then, she asked--are they going to send her back to the Soviet Union, and Mrs. Paine said, "I don't know," and then she looked at me and I said, "I don't know either. If you are innocent, then you will be innocent," I couldn't say one way or the other, and I didn't want to go into conversation.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you say to Marina that, "If you are innocent--then you are innocent"--did you mean to imply by that that she would not be deported in that event?

Mr. Mamantov.

Right; and then I expressed hope that nothing would happen to her.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, have you now told us everything you can recall to the best of your recollection that was said?

Mr. Mamantov.

In relation to Marina or to both of them?

Mr. Jenner.

First, in relation to Marina--during the course of that 8-hour meeting or session at the Dallas City Police Station.

Mr. Mamantov.

I think I have told you everything I remember.

Mr. Jenner.

In an effort to perhaps refresh your recollection, but without suggestion that these things actually occurred, was anything asked her about her relations with her husband, Lee Oswald, whether they got along well, didn't get along well, whether they had any problems in that connection?

Mr. Mamantov.

I don't think it was brought up at that particular time.

Mr. Jenner.

You have an especial command of the Russian language, you teach Russian?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

And have taught Russian?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

You have heard Mrs. Paine speak Russian?

Mr. Mamantov.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you please state for the record the extent of Mrs. Paine's command of the Russian language?

Mr. Mamantov.

Say for--I can give only comparison for American person and for Russian person. I say for an American person--fair to good for knowledge of the language, for command of language very poor.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that the only occasion when you interpreted or translated for Marina?

Mr. Mamantov.

In person? In her presence?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Mamantov.

That's the only occasion.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see Marina at any time after this incident, this questioning?

Mr. Mamantov.

Intentionally or unintentionally?

Mr. Jenner.

Well, I think, either way.

Mr. Mamantov.

Either way--yes, sir--I once on one Saturday, my mother-in-law and I went to Sears to Ross Avenue store.

Mr. Mamantov.

Shortly afterward.

Mr. Jenner.

How shortly--the next day?

Mr. Mamantov.

Oh, no---the next day after Martin, I guess, came into the picture.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have occasion to speak with her then?

Mr. Mamantov.

My mother-in-law went into the main entrance and I opened the door, and if I remember right, I was holding the door for somebody else to pass by and mother-in-law got ahead. I closed the door and started to walk off and catch up and I heard somebody calling, like in my conscious, calling, "Mr. Mamantov," in Russian and in a very little whisper, and I was walking a couple of steps further and I heard it again, "Mr. Mamantov," again in Russian and I turned around and here was a young lady, two children, and about three or four young men around, so in my mind it occurred--this is Marina, but I was so surprised and she didn't look like she looked at the police station. Her hair became dark and I called out "Netasha," and she called me in Russian and said, "No, this is Marina." So, I introduced myself immediately to the gentlemen with her, saying I was translating for her at the police station and my name is so and so.