Mr. Mamantov.

She was asked if she knew that the gun was at the premises of Mrs. Paine.

Mr. Jenner.

The questioning, then, assumed that there was a gun, is that correct?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct. She was asked whether this gun--when at the Paines, whether she knew knew where the gun used to be, and then she said she hadn't seen gun since the gun--she saw last time and this particular day when gun wasn't there. No; she never stated, and I don't think she was asked if she knew that the gun was there that particular morning. That, I don't know, but she was asked if she knew that the gun was with her belongings.

Mr. Jenner.

Prior to November 22?

Mr. Mamantov.

Prior to November 22--that's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

And her response was in the affirmative?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

And your distinct recollection is that the blanket was not brought into the room at any time while you were there to exhibit to her?

Mr. Mamantov.

Only physical item was gun.

Mr. Jenner.

Your recollection is that it is true that the blanket was not brought into the room?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct, the only physical item was brought in, was the gun itself, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And was the gun when brought in fully assembled?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Did it have the telescopic sight on it?

Mr. Mamantov.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And did it have a sling, a leather sling, do you know what I mean by a sling?

Mr. Mamantov.

Yes; I know what you mean, but I don't remember right now. I think it did, but I wouldn't be for sure I wouldn't be sure of the statement.
Now, I don't know if it is important to you or not, she also stated when she was questioned before where he purchased the gun, and if it was a gun which he had in the Soviet Union.

Mr. Jenner.

And what was her response?

Mr. Mamantov.

Her response was that it is possible that this is the gun which he had in the Soviet Union. She cannot say one way or the other if this is a different gun or which he had before. Now, no person had a gun in the Soviet Union---I can say so much for sure and that's where I didn't like this.

Mr. Jenner.

No; you just interjected, your own observation, that is, no person had a gun in the Soviet Union--that was an observation on your part, not what she said.

Mr. Mamantov.

No, no; that's my observation, but maybe not to be--not to put it into the record, but I think it is very important when she went back--when she said that the gun was brought in from the Soviet Union.

Mr. Jenner.

Might have been?

Mr. Mamantov.

It might have been--so, she didn't know. The question was asked when did he purchase, when and where he purchased it and she said, "I don't know. He had always guns. He always played with guns even in the Soviet Union. He had the gun and I don't know which gun was this." And she was asked a question if she would recognize the gun--she was asked the color of the gun, if this was the same gun or resembled the gun which he had in the Soviet Union. She said, to her all guns are dark and black and that's all--so much she said about it.

Mr. Jenner.

Before we get to the gun itself, I would like to ask you some more questions.

Mr. Mamantov.

Before we get to the gun itself---all right.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it from your answers that she either said or implied that when they were in Fort Worth, when they were in New Orleans, that he had the gun that she had in mind?

Mr. Mamantov.

This particular gun?

Mr. Jenner.

Whatever gun she had in mind.