Mr. Jenner.

How do you spell that?

Mrs. Murret.

C-L-A-V-E-R-I-E.

Mrs. Jenner.

And your first name is Lillian?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you born in New Orleans yourself?

Mrs. Murret.

New Orleans; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And you have always lived in New Orleans; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Were your brothers and sisters born here?

Mrs. Murret.

They were.

Mr. Jenner.

In New Orleans?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

So that you all are native-born Americans; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir; native to Louisiana--Cajuns.

Mr. Jenner.

Cajun and American?

Mrs. Murret.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Then all of the family are native-born Americans; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, not my grandparents.

Mr. Jenner.

Not your grandparents?

Mrs. Murret.

No. On my father's side were from France, and my grandparents on my mother's side were from Germany.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, Mrs. Murret, once in a while I may have to ask you a question which is a little personal, but please accept my word that it is in good faith and that it is pertinent to this investigation, and my first personal question is, would you tell us what your age is?

Mrs. Murret.

What my age is?

Mr. Jenner.

How old are you?

Mrs. Murret.

I will be 64 in May, May 17.

Mr. Jenner.

And how old is Marguerite?

Mrs. Murret.

I think she should be 57.

Mr. Jenner.

Marguerite, I should say, is the sister of Mrs. Murret.
Now, I would like to have you tell me something about her, how many times she was married, to whom, in chronological order.

Mrs. Murret.

Well, I will tell you all I know about her. I have known her all her life, you know. She was first married to Edward John Pic.

Mr. Jenner.

Edward John Pic?

Mrs. Murret.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that P-I-C?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I think we have that as John Edward Pic. Is there an explanation for that, do you think?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, I think they just reversed the name around because the child is John Edward, but I think the father's name was Edward John, because I think they always called him Eddie. Now, I don't know which way it is.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Do you happen to recall when that marriage took place?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, I wouldn't remember what year, you know, or anything like that, when the marriage took place. I know about how long they were married. I think they were married about 2 years, but I'm not really too accurate as to years.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, as closely as you can come to it.

Mrs. Murret.

I know what happened, but the dates I just don't recall exactly, because I had my own affairs to take care of, so I can't remember dates in her life, but anyway, she was married to Eddie for 2 years, we'll say----

Mr. Jenner.

Let me interrupt you for a minute. Tell me something about that marriage. Who was he? Did the marriage take place here? Were you present? What do you know about that marriage?

Mrs. Murret.

I don't know too much about the marriage. I don't think it took place here. I just don't know anything about that. It might have taken place over on the Gulf Coast. I don't know if I am right on that or not. That has been so long ago, but Marguerite did know Eddie a very long time.

Mr. Jenner.

She had known him for some time before she married him?