Mr. Voshinin.

I have no knowledge, no; no information about it. And I have seen, you know, Christina and her husband. You know who they are--Kirken.

Mr. Jenner.

Spell it, please.

Mr. Voshinin.

Or whatever he calls himself--that's Mrs. De Mohrenschildt's daughter and her husband. He calls himself Kirken. K-i-r-k-e-n [phonetic]; Americans call him Kirken [phonetic].

Mr. Jenner.

[Spelling] K-a-r-t-o-n?

Mr. Voshinin.

[Spelling] K-i-r-k-e-n--or o-n--I don't know. They dropped in when they came from Haiti.

Mr. Jenner.

They were here recently?

Mr. Voshinin.

They were here recently. They dropped by our house and they said they are on bad terms with the parents and he said they left--they couldn't stand that.

Mr. Jenner.

Did either of them say anything about whether or not George De Mohrenschildt had made any statements to the effect that the FBI was responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy?

Mr. Voshinin.

Oh, I heard that story; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

From whom did you hear it? And give us your recollection of it.

Mr. Voshinin.

I think that--uh--well, I heard it from my wife, to tell the truth.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, I'll talk to her about that.

Mr. Voshinin.

And she heard it, I don't know, from the Ballens, maybe or maybe from the children.
I don't know. I think that Kirken said that George is behaving ridiculously and he said, "My father-in-law is behaving ridiculously---he talks nonsense." And he says, "We just decided to shorten our stay there because, otherwise, it would come to very unpleasant scenes."

Mr. Jenner.

He was of the opinion that these fulminations or statements by George De Mohrenschildt were nonsense?

Mr. Voshinin.

Sure. George talks, you know, a lot of nonsense usually about anything; but sometimes, you know, as Kirken says, he says he became quite unpleasant with his nonsense and he says he couldn't stand it And Kirken and his wife are, I think, good Americans.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Voshinin.

They are okay.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, is there anything else that occurs to you that you would like to add in the record that you think might be helpful or pertinent?

Mr. Voshinin.

Well, not that I know at the present time, but----

Mr. Jenner.

If you think of anything, we're going to be hack next week and the week afterwards----

Mr. Voshinin.

Could you give me a telephone or anything?

Mr. Jenner.

Well, you just call the U.S. attorney's office here and somebody representing the Commission will be here. Either I will or some other person. So all you have to do is ask for the U.S. attorney, Mr. Sanders--Barefoot Sanders----

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah; I know.

Mr. Jenner.

And he will know, and he will put you in touch with one of us.

Mr. Voshinin.

Okay. Probably my wife will recollect a lot of things.

Mr. Jenner.

Now we've had some discussions off the record, is there anything we discussed off the record that I have failed to bring out that you think ought to be on the record?

Mr. Voshinin.

Of what, for example?

Mr. Jenner.

Is there anything we discussed that I failed then to ask you about so it would get on this transcript that the reporter is making?

Mr. Voshinin.

Not that I know, unless you recall something.

Mr. Jenner.

Is there anything which was stated by you.

Mr. Voshinin.

You know De Mohrenschildt has here a brother?

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, yes. His brother--he's a professor, according to your information where?

Mr. Voshinin.

Dartmouth.

Mr. Jenner.

At Dartmouth College?