Mr. Voshinin.

still keeps files on everybody--when anybody was born, baptized, or whatever happened to everybody.

Mr. Jenner.

I see.

Mr. Voshinin.

He even showed me a file and he said, "Say, you came here, I immediately opened a file on you." I say, "What for?"
And he say, "Well, you know, I forget things--so I keep a file on everybody." Then, later, the parishes separated, as you know.

Mr. Jenner.

The parishes separated. Yes. I've heard that.

Mr. Voshinin.

Because, somehow, their life together, you know, became unbearable and finally the St. Seraphim Church decided to move out.

Mr. Jenner.

Of that building?

Mr. Voshinin.

Of that building on McKinney. And we bought a house on Newton and Throckmorton, as you know.
And the St. Nicholas Church remained within empty house which they only used once in 5 weeks; so they decided to sell it and they sold that house and it was torn away--torn down. And now there is a Gulf station on McKinney.

Mr. Jenner.

A Gulf gasoline station?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah; and they are still holding their church meetings at the house of Mr. and Mrs. Tsinzadze (phonetic).

Mr. Jenner.

Hold it. Can you spell that?

Mr. Voshinin.

Well, I don't know how to spell that. This is a Georgian name. These are Georgian people.

Mr. Jenner.

By "Georgian," you mean----

Mr. Voshinin.

From Georgia.

Mr. Jenner.

From the Georgia part of Russia?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah. It's the [spelling] T-s-i-n-z-a-d-z-e, something like that.

Mr. Jenner.

That's good enough.

Mr. Voshinin.

And we have been perhaps two or three times since that in Tsinzadze's house because my father, I think, goes to confession there. He cannot go to the English confession. He prefers to have his confession in the Russian language. So, they still have a pastor coming there but not from Houston. That pastor who was in Houston is now in Johannesburg, South Africa. And they have a retired pastor from Galveston--from the Galveston Greek Orthodox Church--who comes there once in 5 weeks or so and they have services.
So, perhaps once in the year we go them or twice.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Voshinin, this is very interesting to me. Would you describe this community of people in your own words? Tell me about the community as a group.

Mr. Voshinin.

St. Nicholas?

Mr. Jenner.

No; the whole this Russian----

Mr. Voshinin.

They are not only Russians there. Of course, Russians---you said Russians--Yugoslav, Lebanese but in addition to that, there are those people Estonians and Latvians. You see, there are a lot of Latvians and Estonians who are Greek Orthodox. ,Well, you see, there is a national differentiation now---yeah--in addition, I can take another nationality. These are people west Ukrainians and Carpathian Russians. These people have former Austrian citizenship and Polish citizenship. They come from that part which is known as Galicia.
So, nowdays, the people who are in St. Nicholas parish--we call that "Bouhe's parish," in our usual usage of language. That's what we usually call Bouhe's parish.

Mr. Davis.

He's still the secretary of that parish?

Mr. Voshinin.

He's still the secretary of that parish--yeah.
These people are mostly those Baltic people there, with few Russians. There are perhaps about 5 Russians there and about 15 to 20 Estonians and Latvians. That is St. Nicholas though, whereas the St. Seraphim Church has a much wider, of course, background because there are Russians there, there are Yugoslavs--it's true that Bouhe's group has some Yugoslavs but they never come to his church--not very often at least--very rare; but they come to us,