Mr. Jenner.

What is the name of the parish?

Mr. Voshinin.

Well, there were two parishes there.

Mr. Jenner.

Yeah.

Mr. Voshinin.

On McKinney, there were two parishes in one church. One was called the St. Nicholas Parish and the other, the St. Seraphim Parish.
The St. Seraphim Parish is the English-speaking parish where the services were in English. And at most times that's the parish who held their services there; whereas the building belonged to St. Nicholas Parish--who had their services once in 5 weeks, with their pastor coming from Houston.

Mr. Jenner.

And that was Father----

Mr. Voshinin.

Father Alexander.

Mr. Jenner.

And the Father of the other parish is Dimitri?

Mr. Voshinin.

Father Dimitri Royster.

Mr. Jenner.

Royster?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Voshinin.

And the St. Nicholas Parish secretary-treasurer is Mr. Bouhe.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. He's the motivating force, is he?

Mr. Voshinin.

He's the motivating force there and everything [laughter]. Our sympathies switched very quickly to St. Seraphim Church and I became a member of the church council there at St. Seraphim and--uh--I didn't like to be a member of St. Nicholas any more.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that largely because of the aggressiveness of Mr. Bouhe?

Mr. Voshinin.

And because of the irregularity of the church meeting once in 5 weeks--and many other things--and because I believe that the church in this country should be in the language of the country. I think it's natural--it's what it should be in order that our denomination can exist at all--because in two, three generations, the people lose their national language, and then there is no church. Besides that, uh--I--what did I want to say? Besides that, I don't think that's a good idea to divide Christians by their language in thousand and one churches. We have people of six or seven national backgrounds and is--it's absolutely senseless in serving the service in some other language than the language in which everybody can understand. And, therefore, we switched to the St. Seraphim Church---of which we have remained members up to now.

Mr. Jenner.

Were these two parishes and the church itself--that is, the Greek Orthodox Church consisting of the two parishes--is that the medium through which in large part the emigre group, let me say--from Russia, from Yugoslavia, from----

Mr. Voshinin.

Lebanon; yeah.

Mr. Jenner.

Became acquainted?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes; yes. Everybody knows everybody.

Mr. Jenner.

Everybody knew everybody?

Mr. Voshinin.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And all rumors and everything else passed back and forth through this group?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes; that's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And is it true that arising out of this common interest in the Greek Orthodox Church and the two parishes that a measure of social inter- course, apart from the church, was also generated?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes; that is true.

Mr. Jenner.

And you people generally became acquainted, one with the other, in not only your church activity but your general social activity as well?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah--well, I wouldn't say "general" social activity, because, in addition to the church, I meet people through my office and my wife met them too, so--but partially, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. At least, through that medium, whether you wanted to or not you sort of kept track of everybody?

Mr. Voshinin.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Everybody knew something about what the other fellow was doing or would like to?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah--and as far as I know Mr. Bouhe even kept files and