Mr. Voshinin.

other fellows--and, of course, it has cost us something; it wasn't for free, you know.

Mr. Jenner.

You had to do a little bribery?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah, to three persons there including the guard which was taking, as we were explained, cigarettes. When we came out, we had seen about a hundred people who did the same thing--so, it probably was going--big business there.

Mr. Davis.

When did you come to Dallas?

Mr. Voshinin.

1955---about the first of September.

Mr. Jenner.

You were naturalized in New York City?

Mr. Voshinin.

No, sir; in New Brunswick, N.J.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, New Brunswick, N.J.?

Mr. Voshinin.

New Brunswick, N.J. Yeah. We mostly preferred to live in New Jersey, you know. It's a little better air. I'm an asthmatic, you know.

Mr. Jenner.

You're asthmatic?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah; I'm asthmatic--and, therefore, I have to choose my climate.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Voshinin--was she likewise born in Russia?

Mr. Voshinin.

That's right. Only she's 12 years younger so when her parents took her out of Russia, then she was I year old.

Mr. Jenner.

She probably wouldn't remember then.

Mr. Voshinin.

She doesn't know anything about it.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, when you came to Dallas in September of 1955, had you had any advance acquaintance with anybody here?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes; I knew two persons whom I met through the church.

Mr. Jenner.

And what church is that?

Mr. Voshinin.

Uh--the church in Houston.

Mr. Jenner.

What is the name of it and what is its denomination?

Mr. Voshinin.

Greek Orthodox Church.

Mr. Jenner.

Greek Orthodox Church?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes; I don't know what the church's name is. I think it's St. Vladimir--but I'm not sure.

Mr. Jenner.

St. Vladimir?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah; I think so--but I'm not quite sure that was the name. And the thing is that we wanted to settle in Houston first----

Mr. Jenner.

I see.

Mr. Voshinin.

But we didn't like the climate. And the people there they gave us the name of Mr. Raigorodsky--Paul Raigorodsky.

Mr. Jenner.

Spell that last name, please.

Mr. Voshinin.

R-a-i-g-o-r-o-d-s-k-y.

Mr. Jenner.

Is he of Russian descent---or Yugoslavian or what?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah; Russian.

Mr. Jenner.

He had preceded you to this country?

Mr. Voshinin.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

How long?

Mr. Voshinin.

He was the first Russian immigrant who settled here in Dallas.

Mr. Jenner.

I see.

Mr. Voshinin.

And he is a millionaire--a very rich man.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you known him?

Mr. Voshinin.

No; we didn't know him personally but the priest there, the pastor, you know, of our denomination in Houston said that when you go to Dallas--we said that we passed through Dallas going to Houston and we said we liked the climate much better and it's too humid there. So we said, "Well, you know, we go to that city, we may settle there, but we don't know anybody."
So, he said, "Well, why don't you--we have two men who are able to help you--and this is Mr. Raigorodsky and Mr. Bouhe---George Bouhe." The Russians are referring--joking about Raigorodsky--they call him, "the Czar," here.

Mr. Jenner.

Yeah.

Mr. Voshinin.

So--he's an old man--and so when we came, then the next day--it was during our vacation in 1955--and so we went to see Raigorodsky and then we went to see Bouhe. And they told us that there is a church of our