Mr. Voshinin.

In 1942, the Germans forced me to go to work to Germany, and actually, I Jumped their train and remained in Austria close to Yugoslavia. And after--by the end of the war when the Communists were close, you know, we moved further west and somehow managed to come to Kempten----

Mr. Jenner.

To what?

Mr. Voshinin.

To Kempten in south Bavaria--[spelling] K-e-m-p-t-e-n--and that's where we met the American Army.

Mr. Jenner.

What you mean is that the American Army in its advance reached the Bavarian area and freed you?

Mr. Voshinin.

Well, the American Army came to Kempten on 25th of April and we reached Kempten on the 12th of April. So, I was just 13 days in Germany before the American Army.

Mr. Jenner.

Are you married?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes; I am.

Mr. Jenner.

And what is your wife's name?

Mr. Voshinin.

Natalie.

Mr. Jenner.

And where did you marry her?

Mr. Voshinin.

Belgrade, Yugoslavia.

Mr. Jenner.

When?

Mr. Voshinin.

It was in 1940.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have a family?

Mr. Voshinin.

No; I have no children. I have only my father here.

Mr. Jenner.

When did you come to the United States?

Mr. Voshinin.

Uh--it was November 12, 1947.

Mr. Jenner.

And your wife accompanied you at that time?

Mr. Voshinin.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And you settled where in this country?

Mr. Voshinin.

We settled first in New York.

Mr. Jenner.

City?

Mr. Voshinin.

New York City, for some time, then we mostly lived in New Jersey.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you receive a higher education--that is, an education beyond high school equivalent?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you tell us what that was, please, and where?

Mr. Voshinin.

I have bachelor degree in civil engineering from the University of Belgrade, 1931, and the master degree in civil engineering from the Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute, in 1955.

Mr. Jenner.

And the Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute is in New York City, or its environs?

Mr. Voshinin.

That's right--in Brooklyn.

Mr. Jenner.

And you have pursued your profession in civil engineering----

Mr. Voshinin.

Since 1931, up to now except for the time of war.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you give me the dates again when you were in Yugoslavia?

Mr. Voshinin.

From the middle of 1920 to 1942.

Mr. Jenner.

1942? Is that when the Germans sought to bring you to Germany and you escaped then to Austria?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yeah.

Mr. Jenner.

That was an escape, wasn't it?

Mr. Voshinin.

Well, it was a little illegal [laughter]. Because they dragged everybody to the Rhine, you know--and somehow I managed, with other people, to get out of that train. There were hundreds of people who got out.

Mr. Davis.

Did you stay in Austria, then, throughout the war?

Mr. Voshinin.

Yes; almost out through the war.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, Austria was occupied by the Germans also, was it not?

Mr. Voshinin.

Austria was occupied also as well as Yugoslavia. And, of course, you had to go to the labor office because otherwise I would be arrested immediately.

Mr. Davis.

When you'd go there, they'd let you stay in Austria?

Mr. Voshinin.

You see, every labor office was grabbing for labor force whoever would come, you know. And, therefore, they would not disclose your name to the next labor office, you know. So, I--when I got out of the train with two