Mr. Jenner.

No mention of the fact--if it was a fact--that Oswald wanted Marina to return to Russia?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No; I never heard that.

Mr. Jenner.

Or, that they both desired to return to Russia?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No; I never heard that.

Mr. Jenner.

Just nothing at all concerning----

Mrs. Voshinin.

Nothing at all concerning that.

Mr. Jenner.

Any conversation that came to your attention with respect to Marina undertaking to have some command of the English language and the reaction of Oswald to that?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; that was discussed by De Mohrenschildt. And George thought that Marina wanted very much to study English and that Lee prevented it; that he really was forbidding her to do that. And I remember that Jeanne said something that he found some English book that she had, was trying to learn English behind his back, and he was very angry.
Incidentally, that was again one of those things that was pigeonholed against Oswald, you know. Because the why--you know, the reason that he gave. Why would he want that?
Because, really, there was one more point that was very strange about Oswald-my feelings were. He sort of wanted to cut off the communication of Marina even with Russian people. Because he was so unpleasant to Russians to those folks around who tried to help her, you know. He was quite rude, quite unpleasant--and, for some reason, we got the impression that he has a reason not to want her to communicate with people, to learn English, or to be together with Russians.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.
Now, I'd like to ask you a few questions about that. That's why I asked you all the detail about your coming here, and how you became acquainted. This was out of the ordinary, as far as the community in which you moved is concerned?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it that that community was Bouhe, De Mohrenschildts--- and however you may have liked or disliked them in their efforts, the attitude always was to get everybody acquainted with everybody else as quickly as possible and to assist them? Now, this would be especially true, for example, of Marina--that you'd like to bring her into the circle?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I really can't say because we are not very close with that circle, St. Nicholas circle, you know--St. Nicholas Parish circle.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, I really am not thinking about that particular parish.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yeah.

Mr. Jenner.

I'm trying to put the background to what was bothering you--that the normal thing that you expected-- would expect of these people----

Mrs. Voshinin.

Oh, yeah I understand you now. Yeah. Quite.

Mr. Jenner.

Was that he would bring her into acquaintance with those with whom she would be able to converse, anyhow, in Russian?

Mrs. Voshinin.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And become acquainted, and then, through them, to learn or otherwise to acquire facility with the English language----

Mrs. Voshinin.

Quite; or send her to school, at least, you know. That's the natural thing to do for us when we come to this country--you know, just do it as soon as possible. Right?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. And what did you understand with respect to her education?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I understood that she was a pharmacist but she did not have a higher education because she was too young in age and I believe that George mentioned that she went 2 years to college. Now, that wouldn't be college in Russia. It might be something----

Mr. Jenner.

No. It would be something like junior college here?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Juniors or something like that. It would give her technician status rather than a specialist in pharmacology.

Mr. Jenner.

Did there come to your attention, in moving about your friends