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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VIII - Page 413« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of John Raymond Hall)

Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know whether your wife ever lent any money to them or gave any money to Marina?
Mr. Hall.
I don't know about money. She bought groceries for them, for Marina, but as far as money, I don't think she ever loaned them any.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did your wife buy groceries for Marina only during the time that Marina lived in your house, is that right? Or did she buy groceries for the Oswalds at other times?
Mr. Hall.
No. I believe they did receive, the women contributed, and George Bouhe bought some groceries over to their place by Montgomery Ward.
Mr. Liebeler.
Prior to the time that Oswald moved to Dallas?
Mr. Hall.
Yes; I believe so. I am not sure of it.
Mr. Liebeler.
You don't have any idea how much groceries were given to the Oswalds during that period of time, do you?
Mr. Hall.
No; my wife would probably have a good idea of this in dollars.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you ever discuss with Oswald his military service?
Mr. Hall.
I can't remember a thing being said, about his military service.
Mr. Liebeler.
Can you think of anything else that you might know about Oswald that your wife wouldn't be able to testify about, that you think the Commission should know?
Mr. Hall.
No, sir; I don't believe so.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did Oswald ever indicate a desire to go to Cuba or to Mexico?
Mr. Hall.
Not to me; no.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you ever hear of his indicating such a desire to anybody else?
Mr. Hall.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Were you surprised when you heard that Oswald had been arrested in connection with the assassination?
Mr. Hall.
Not at all.
Mr. Liebeler.
You weren't surprised?
Mr. Hall.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Why not?
Mr. Hall.
Well, exactly our feelings, Mrs. Clark called my wife and said that they had arrested Oswald, and we had the television set in our laboratory--at that time we were watching television and were on the wrong channel and didn't get this until 5 or 10 or 15 minutes later. We did get it, and when they mentioned it was Oswald, they were sure it was Oswald, then all of us--I am talking about my wife and Mrs. Clark and Max and ourself, subsequently talking, we said, "I am not surprised at all. That is the kind of guy that would do something like that." And this was generally the feeling among all the people we knew that knew him.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you have any opinion, or was any opinion expressed during these conversations as to why Oswald would have done this, and if he did it, what his motive was?
Mr. Hall.
Well, we felt like he was not mentally disarranged. I actually thought Oswald was pretty sharp with his words. I mean the way he talked, he didn't talk like he was stupid. He was pretty sharp. If he had the right training in the right direction, he could have done something with his life. But I always thought he was just completely out in left field in politics, that he didn't come close to us, so this is actually my feeling, because he was so intent on his ideas of this book that related to the Marxism theories, he was so intent and so set--in other words, when you talked to him about this, you just didn't have any idea at all that you were going to change him. Even though I was trying to convince him that our system was a tremendous enterprise, was the best, when I started talking to him, I didn't feel like I had a chance to change his thinking.
Mr. Liebeler.
You think that these political attitudes of his were somehow related to his involvement in the assassination?
Mr. Hall.
Say that again?
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you think that these political attitudes or economic attitudes that Oswald had provided him a motive to want to assassinate the President? Or were related to it?
Mr. Hall.
My--this is just my personal feeling, but I definitely feel that he
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