Mr. Hall.

Christmas and Easter, I did the talking in a conversation with Oswald, and Elena and Marina were back in the bedroom talking as women do.

Mr. Liebeler.

During that period of time that you knew Oswald, did you become aware of the fact that he and Marina were having difficulties with their marriage?

Mr. Hall.

We heard that she was living with someone else at one time, I don't know who. My wife can probably tell you. And we also heard that he beat her up one time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever see any indication that be had beaten her up?

Mr. Hall.

I didn't; no.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was it your impression that the Oswalds were having marital difficulties at the time Marina lived in your house or in Mrs. Hall's house in Fort Worth?

Mr. Hall.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

The only reason that Marina lived there at that time was because Oswald didn't have an apartment in Dallas, is that correct?

Mr. Hall.

To give him a chance to get settled; yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you help the Oswalds move?

Mr. Hall.

No. My wife moved Marina from their apartment there at Montgomery Ward to our home in a pickup truck that she borrowed from her employer at that time. But she didn't move, or neither of us helped him move to Dallas. We were in New York when they moved to Dallas.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you recall when you went to New York?

Mr. Hall.

Well, we got back--we were married on the 17th.

Mr. Liebeler.

Of November?

Mr. Hall.

Yes; I believe. We left about 2 weeks earlier than that, which would be about, say, November the 1st, 2d, or 3d, and I came back and--a week later, and went directly to Odessa, finished my business, and moved back to Fort Worth, met my wife at the plane on the 16th, and we were married on the 17th.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember how long Marina had been living with your wife before you went to New York? In other words, when did Marina first move into the house with your wife?

Mr. Hall.

Well, she would have moved in in the late, the latter part of October, because since she left during the week that my wife actually came back from New York---you see I came back a week earlier than she did, and she moved out during the last week that my wife was in New York, and that was the middle of November. It would mean that since she stayed in our home about 3 weeks, she moved there the latter part of October, and moved out the middle of November. We don't really know what day, I don't think.

Mr. Liebeler.

Because you weren't there when she moved out?

Mr. Hall.

No; we were in New York.

Mr. Liebeler.

She was gone when you got back?

Mr. Hall.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any idea where Oswald was living in Dallas during the time his wife was living in your house?

Mr. Hall.

We understood--this is hearsay from George Bouhe, I guess--that he was living at the YMCA.

Mr. Liebeler.

AS far as you knew, he moved directly from the YMCA to the apartments on Elsbeth Street, is that correct?

Mr. Hall.

The next time we heard of him, he was living on Elsbeth.

Mr. Liebeler.

You don't know of 'any other place he might have lived in Dallas before taking that apartment?

Mr. Hall.

Then he moved around the corner, around the corner from Elsbeth to an upstairs apartment in a white house, whatever the address on Neely Street.

Mr. Liebeler.

N-e-e-l-y?

Mr. Hall.

I don't really remember the name, but it was upstairs, and it was Easter, so they had moved between Christmas and Easter.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever lend any money to Oswald?

Mr. Hall.

No.