(Testimony of John Raymond Hall)
Mr. Hall.
Yes; and even at this time in fact, I don't remember, I don't know, it was probably at Easter, he said that he wanted to go back.
And I know this to be real definite that--I don't know how you want that---because when we first heard, when my wife and I first heard from the Clarks that Oswald was in New Orleans, when he was down there word got back, I don't know how it got back, but the Clarks told us he was in New Orleans, and when we found this out, I told my wife that I knew that he was down there to catch a ship and go to Russia.
So I don't know how he said this, but he left the impression with me, or told me directly--I think it was more directly, because I know at that time he wanted to go back to Russia.
Mr. Liebeler.
You have a recollection that he said that to you in so many words?
Mr. Hall.
Yes; I am sure of this, because my wife, when Gali Clark told her, and we found out he was in New Orleans, I was sure he was on his way to Russia.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you think he told you that at the time you met him at Easter of 1963?
Mr. Hall.
Yes; because this is really what impressed me on religion, but things got stormy in this Easter meeting. I pushed him a little bit harder at that time than I had before.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he talk to you about his experiences in Russia during the time that he had previously been there?
Mr. Hall.
Yes; he explained to us about living in Minsk, about working in the sheet metal factory, about how food was rather short, and about the terrible expense of shoes and clothes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he tell you how much money he was paid at the factory?
Mr. Hall.
Max Clark asked him this at this soup luncheon, and I really don't remember. I have read this in the newspapers, but I don't remember what it was.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he indicate to you in any way that he was receiving income while he was in Russia from any source other than his job?
Mr. Hall.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he tell you about any hunting trips that he might have gone on in Russia?
Mr. Hall.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you know that Oswald owned a rifle?
Mr. Hall.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you ever discuss with him any aspect of hunting or the use of firearms?
Mr. Hall.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
You don't speak Russian, do you, Mr. Hall?
Mr. Hall.
No, sir; this was a big disagreement at the first time Ave met. I know I just didn't enter into the discussion, so it was just about not wanting to teach his wife English. I was really upset about it.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he tell you why he didn't want his wife to learn English?
Mr. Hall.
He wanted to perfect his Russian. He thought it more important for him to further himself in the Russian language than for her to learn English.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you form an opinion as to whether or not Marina Oswald did understand any English, or to what extent she understood English?
Mr. Hall.
All the time, every meeting we had, I didn't feel like she could understand anything further than hello.
Mr. Liebeler.
You first met them, as you said, in Fort Worth in the fall of 1962, and the last time you saw them was at Easter of 1968?
Mr. Hall.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you maintain that opinion about Marina's ability to use English throughout that entire time, is that correct?
Mr. Hall.
That's right
Mr. Liebeler.
Did Oswald ever express any resentment against the U.S. Government for any reason that you can remember?
Mr. Hall.
Not specifically. Just feeling. Like on capitalism, and I don't know if this is related to the time Max Clark and I were together with Oswald,
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