Mr. Liebeler.

stove in there, small apartment stove so he could cook if he wanted to and he did not have to use the communal kitchen.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, you said that Marina did not go back to work after the baby was born?

Mr. Clark.

That's what he indicated to me.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he indicate that that was an extraordinary situation?

Mr. Clark.

Yes; he said it was very unusual because all women were allowed so much leave; I think he said 6 weeks before the birth of a child and 4 weeks or something after the birth of the child in which they were not required to work but other than that they worked the whole time.

Mr. Liebeler.

What happened to the child when they went back to work?

Mr. Clark.

He said they take it to special places that elderly women--they receive their pay for taking care of the children; kind of a babysitting service or nursery and you would drop the children off at the nursery and at the end of the day, the mothers pick them up.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he express any opinion as to this procedure? Did he think this was a good thing or bad thing?

Mr. Clark.

Well, he didn't seem quite--he just took it as a matter of course. He thought that was all right. He didn't have much comment to make on that.

Mr. Liebeler.

I am looking at a report of an interview which you gave on about November 29, 1963, to two FBI agents, Mr. Haley and Mr. Madland. Do you remember that?

Mr. Clark.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

This report indicates that you told them at that time that 3 months after Oswald's child was born that his wife did go back to work and that the government did take the child and place it in a government nursery.

Mr. Clark.

No; I think maybe Earl must have misunderstood because when the baby came over here it was my understanding she was less than 5 months old. I am not sure but the baby was very young and I think Earl might have misunderstood when I said after the mothers returned to work they were placed in a nursery.

Mr. Liebeler.

Seems like he might have confused the general proposition with the particular case of the Oswalds.

Mr. Clark.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, did Oswald tell you the circumstances under which he met and subsequently married his wife, Marina?

Mr. Clark.

Well, I have heard from him and then, of course, I think she told my wife who gave me her version of it that he stated while he was working as a sheet metal worker in this factory, why, there wasn't too much social activity and he with some of his fellow workers went one evening or was in the habit of going to a dance that they had in fact for everyone and he would go and this one night he went there and he met Marina and so he danced with her quite a bit and that they, after a short time, they got married.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he indicate he had had any difficulty in securing permission to marry her?

Mr. Clark.

He didn't indicate any trouble at all getting permission to marry her and then what she told my wife was that she was quite a flirt. In other words, she said that she made a practice of going late to the dance so she would be fresh and then all the boys would rush to her because she would have fresh make-up and the others would be hot and tired. So, she went late this night, later in the evening, and arrived very fresh and she met Oswald and she thought it was unusual to be dancing and having a boyfriend that was an American, so she started going with him; so my wife asked her, she said "What did your friends think about you going with an American and marrying an American and coming to the United States?" Marina says "Well, they told me it couldn't be any worse."

Mr. Liebeler.

By that she meant the United States couldn't be any worse than the Soviet Union?

Mr. Clark.

Couldn't be worse, so she gave the impression she was quite happy to get out of there.