Mr. Clark.

There may be some branches but I don't think so. I think this came out of the main office. Whether he called us or he called the Gregorys first, I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler.

One of the things that the Commission is doing in an attempt to learn as much as we can about Oswald is we are trying to put together a schedule of income and outgo of funds throughout the entire time he lived in this country after he returned from Russia. I would like to have you if you could recollect as best you can the exact amount of food, groceries or money or other things that your wife provided to Marina Oswald while she lived at Elena Hall's house. Do you have knowledge of those things?

Mr. Clark.

Actually, it was probably very small because Elena was in the hospital, to my recollection not more than a week and during that time, apparently there was--she bought her some groceries and I do recall she said she bought her a carton of cigarettes. I doubt if it would exceed $10 or $15.

Mr. Liebeler.

As far as you know the only thing that your wife did provide to Marina were these things you described?

Mr. Clark.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know whether she gave Marina any money?

Mr. Clark.

I am sure she did not give her any cash; no.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you go on with your story now, please?

Mr. Clark.

So, upon--when this Elena was in the hospital my wife would see Marina about every day and I think that one evening during that week, I took her and the baby and my wife to a restaurant for dinner one night and then on the Sunday following this hospital treatment and while Elena was still in the hospital, Marina asked my wife if we would come over on Sunday afternoon and have some Russian dinner that she would prepare for us and this Elena's ex-husband was coming into town from Odessa and if we would come over there, 3 or 4 o'clock Sunday afternoon, she would prepare this dinner, so we planned on going over there and we did and when we got there Oswald was there. That was the first time either my wife or myself had met Oswald; so, we were there, oh, I would say approximately 2 hours. Some time after we arrived then John Hall, as I recall, came in from the hospital. He had been over seeing his wife and then we sat around and talked and we ate later on and then we left rather early in the evening. Well, probably, I don't recall the time but it must have been 7 or 8 o'clock.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know whether Oswald ever stayed at Elena Hall's home while Elena was in the hospital?

Mr. Clark.

I have no way of knowing. I did not think he did. It was under my impression he was in Dallas at the time. In fact, we were quite surprised to see him that Sunday afternoon because we had formed the impression that Marina and he had separated. I don't know definitely because I couldn't talk with Marina. She only spoke Russian at the time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did your wife have the impression that there had been marital difficulties between the Oswalds at that time?

Mr. Clark.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you tell us any specific reasons why your wife thought that?

Mr. Clark.

None other than the conversations and the fact that Marina, seemed quite happy with him gone, more than the fact that she did not seem to miss him and the fact that he wasn't there.

Mr. Liebeler.

During this time that you and John Hall and your wife and Marina and Oswald were present at Elena Hall's home, did you have a conversation with Oswald?

Mr. Clark.

Yes, I did.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did he say and what did you say?

Mr. Clark.

Of course, I was extremely interested in, well, life in Russia and to find out just exactly why he left in the first place and why he came back and he was in a very talkative mood and he talked at great length about his stay there and he seemed to want to make a point with everyone he met that he wanted them to know he was Lee Oswald the defector. He seemed to be quite proud of that distinction. In his opinion he thought that made him stand out and he would always say, "You know who I am?" when he would meet someone