Mr. Liebeler.

Are you employed at the present time?

Mrs. Sawyer.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember the circumstances under which the Oswalds left the Exchange Place apartment? Did they tell you where they were going or anything?

Mrs. Sawyer.

No; I didn't--I don't recall her saying anything about where she was going particularly. I know one day my husband told me that she was packing furniture or something and preparing to leave, and shortly after that evidently her things were picked up, because when I came back, well, they were gone.

Mr. Liebeler.

As far as you can recall, there was nothing peculiar or particularly outstanding about this boy that would call notice to him to distinguish him from other boys his age?

Mrs. Sawyer.

Really, no; I wouldn't say anything that I can think of, and, as I say, I never came in contact with him long enough or spoke to him, and they were just average people. She just seemed like a very average mother, and I rather imagined in my own mind that she worked and probably did all she could to take care of him as any mother would. About the only thing I remembered about him was the fact that he was rather a nice-looking little boy, and his blond, curly hair.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know of any friends that Mrs. Oswald had during that time?

Mrs. Sawyer.

No; I don't, and, of course, I could venture to say that she probably had friends at the stores where she worked.

Mr. Liebeler.

But you didn't know any of them?

Mrs. Sawyer.

I didn't know any of them, because I made no contacts.

Mr. Liebeler.

I don't think I have any more questions, Mrs. Sawyer. If you can think of anything else that you want to add or anything that you think we ought to know, that we haven't asked you about, or if you can remember anything else about the Oswalds that we haven't covered----

Mrs. Sawyer.

No; well, about the only thing I can tell you is that apparently she was a very kindly person, because the day that we moved into the place, when we had so many books and things to take up, and it was rather a struggle and stairs to climb, and I guess we might have been pretty tired--well, she came out of her doorway and brought coffee to both of us fight there on the stairway, and that was the first contact we had with her that we had ever seen her, and----

Mr. Liebeler.

She seemed to be friendly?

Mrs. Sawyer.

She seemed to be a pleasant person, a friendly person, but I would say very average, I would think. She seemed to be well spoken, I would say average education, possibly not college or anything like that. I was really quite amazed at such a thing happening to this little boy, because, as I said, my picture of him, my mental picture I did remember seemed to be such a pleasant one that something like that came as pretty much of a shock that a child who seemed to be so nice would be involved in anything like that.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he ever talk about politics with you, or did you ever hear him talking about politics to anybody?

Mrs. Sawyer.

No, no; because, as I said, I never met him any more than just saying good morning--and he did say that---or good evening or something like that, but I never engaged in any conversations with him at all. I considered him just a child, and I would hardly think at 14 years old he would have engaged in political talk, or else he would have been quite----

Mr. Liebeler.

Precocious?

Mrs. Sawyer.

True.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, if you don't have anything else that you can think of, I have no more questions. We want to thank you very much for coming over.

Mrs. Sawyer.

Well, you are quite welcome.

Mr. Liebeler.

And for waiting until we got to you, both for myself personally, and the Commission through me expresses its thanks for the cooperation that you have given us.

Mrs. Sawyer.

Well, you are quite welcome. I am sorry that all I know is so vague and such a little bit.

Mrs. Anne Boudreaux