Mr. Delgado.

Now, your NCO, particularly your NCO, may want to push you or make you qualify, because he doesn't want to spend another day out there on the rifle range, see; so it's not all that strict. Like if I was line NCO and I had five men in my section, and four of them qualified, that means that some other day, maybe on my day off, I will have to come in with this other fellow, so I will help him along and push each other along.
You don't try to mess nobody up, but you can't take a man that is shooting poorly and give him a 190 score, see; you could just give him the bare minimum, 170 or 171, to make it look good.

Mr. Liebeler.

Just to qualify him?

Mr. Delgado.

Just to qualify him.

Mr. Liebeler.

So it is a possibility that that might have happened even in this?

Mr. Delgado.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

You said that you came in about third in this pool?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember who the marines were that won it and took second place?

Mr. Delgado.

No. These men were mostly transients. Like I said, I didn't have too many close friends in the Marine Corps. I went to school with quite a few of them that were stationed with us, but I never got real close to any of them.

Mr. Liebeler.

This statement in this FBI report indicates that you said that neither you nor Oswald came close to winning the pool and that just must be a mistake; is that correct?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes, Correct. I think in the first statement, too I said that I have won too, I believe, the first one he took. I won, but he didn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

The first report indicates that you said that Oswald was a poor shot and didn't do well, but it doesn't say anything about how you did. Do you remember discussing how you did with the FBI in the first interview that you had?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes, the first one was at home. We had more time to talk, and I was at ease there.

Mr. Liebeler.

And where would that have been?

Mr. Delgado.

The address?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mr. Delgado.

31 Oakwood Road---30 Oakwood Road, Leonardo, N.J.

Mr. Liebeler.

You say that this incident where you had to go out and qualify was some time in the spring of 1959?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you remember any closer than that?

Mr. Delgado.

No. I just knew it was the spring because that is the time everyone goes out to fire. It's either going to be warm or it's going to be very cold when they go out there; it's never in between. I could have said that, but that was the day I was upset, because this guy kept on badgering me.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are talking now about the interview when the Spanish-speaking agent was present?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Which one of them kept badgering you?

Mr. Delgado.

The Spanish agent.

Mr. Liebeler.

What was he badgering you about?

Mr. Delgado.

He kept on sitting--he'd been talking, he'd been looking at me, doing this [indicating], you know, and he was sitting just about where this gentleman is now, and I'd been looking out of the corner of my eye, because I couldn't concentrate on what he was saying because he kept staring at me, and he was giving me a case of jitters, you know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have the impression that he didn't believe you?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes. But I told him, it's all right in the textbooks, that's fine, you know, but my theory, my way is you are not going to get anything--I mean the majority of the stuff out of books, you have got to apply yourself on the outside; and he may have gotten an A in Spanish, and may write in--be able