Mr. Delgado.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

So that this would have been the time that the Spanish-speaking man was there?

Mr. Delgado.

Right. That was the third visit I had from him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you discuss at that time the rifle practice, do you remember?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes: I did. I discussed the rifle practice all the time they came up.

Mr. Liebeler.

They asked you the same questions?

Mr. Delgado.

Right; same thing over and over again.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, the report that I have says that Oswald, like most marines, took an interest in the pool--they call it a pool instead of a pot, but that is the same thing?

Mr. Delgado.

Arm. Yes; pool.

Mr. Liebeler.

Oswald took an interest in the pool, which was started for the marine getting the highest score. It says, however, "Delgado said neither he nor Oswald came close to winning."

Mr. Delgado.

No, no; that is erroneous, because I won. He didn't win at all.

Mr. Liebeler.

You never told these FBI agents that you yourself did not come close to winning?

Mr. Delgado.

No; because I was--I was one of the highest ones there, I always had an expert badge on me.

Mr. Liebeler.

You were a good rifle shot?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes; just like I got one now [indicating].

Mr. Liebeler.

That is an expert?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes. This is a sharpshooter.

Mr. Liebeler.

You have both a sharpshooter and an expert badge; is that correct?

Mr. Delgado.

Right. One for the M-1 rifle and the other for the carbine rather, this is the M-14, the new one.

Mr. Liebeler.

The scores that you got on that practice would be reflected in your military records, would they not?

Mr. Delgado.

Right; in all our--well, I think they call them 201 flies also in the Marines Corps--I can't remember what they are now, but they are all there, especially that one particular day, because that goes into your records. That's why they are so strict.

Mr. Liebeler.

And there is no chance in connection with that qualification firing that you can pencil in your score?

Mr. Delgado.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

You did not tell the FBI that in your opinion Oswald had penciled in his qualifying score, did you? Or did you tell them that?

Mr. Delgado.

He may have done, you know; but if you got away with it you were more than lucky.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you talk to the FBI about that possibility?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes, I told him he ,nay have, to qualify, because there was a lot of "Maggie's drawers" on his side. Now, he may have had some way of knowing who was pulling, that is another thing. Yon don't know who is out there in the pits, pulling it, see; and it could be a buddy of yours or somebody you know, and they will help you out. you know, get together, like before we all go and separate, you know, and I will say to my buddy, "Well, look, I want to try and get on line 22, you get on target 22 and I will try to be the first one on line"; so help each other like that. And when they 7.o to the pits, they have their choice of getting on the lines, you know, so I will try to work it out with the fellow out there. But sometimes it doesn't work out that way. You just have to take your chances.

Mr. Liebeler.

You told us that in this particular rifle practice, or firing, that the scores were kept by NCOs.

Mr. Delgado.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was it a common practice for the privates to make deals like this with the noncommissioned officers in connection with a thing like this?

Mr. Delgado.

They are making a deal with the other guys pulling the targets. See, the guy back there is also keeping a score.