Mr. Jenner.

in New Orleans, which is the birthplace of Lee Harvey Oswald, and making inquiries of those who in the ordinary course of their lives had some contact with this man, and also other aspects of the assassination. Now, it is our understanding that you did have some contact with him; is that right?

Mr. Voebel.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I would like to ask you a few questions about that.

Mr. Voebel.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

When did you first become acquainted with Lee Harvey Oswald, and under which circumstances? Just tell me generally how that came about.

Mr. Voebel.

Well, it was at school.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that Beauregard Junior High School?

Mr. Voebel.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know what year that was?

Mr. Voebel.

Let's see. I will have to figure that out. That was about 1954 or 1955.

Mr. Jenner.

How did you become aware of him?

Mr. Voebel.

Going to school there. Do you want me to tell you the whole story?

Mr. Jenner.

Well, let's get in a few preliminary remarks first. I would like to have a little background in the record before we go into that.

Mr. Voebel.

Yes, sir. I don't exactly remember when I first saw him because I might have seen him going to school and back without knowing who it was, but I really became acquainted with him when he had this fight with this boy, and we took him back into the boy's restroom and tried to patch him up a bit.

Mr. Jenner.

Were there individuals involved in this fight that you remember?

Mr. Voebel.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell me the circumstances of that, please.

Mr. Voebel.

Well, the day before, maybe a couple of days before, Lee had a fight with a couple of boys.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know their names?

Mr. Voebel.

They were the Neumeyer boys, John and Mike.

Mr. Jenner.

John and Mike?

Mr. Voebel.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

They were classmates?

Mr. Voebel.

Yes. Well, I think one of them was in the same grade as Lee. One was older than the other one. The younger one was maybe a grade or two below Lee, and Lee was in a fight with John, the older one.

Mr. Jenner.

Let's see, if I have that straight now. Lee was in a fight with the elder of two Neumeyer brothers; is that right?

Mr. Voebel.

Right. He was in a fight with John Neumeyer. The fight, I think started on the school ground, and it sort of wandered down the street in the direction naturally in which I was going.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it a protracted fight?

Mr. Voebel.

Protracted?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; did it keep going on?

Mr. Voebel.

Yes, it kept going on, across lawns and sidewalks, and people would run them off, and they would only run to the next place, and it continued that way from block to block, and as people would run them off of one block, they would go on to the next.

Mr. Jenner.

That was fisticuffs; is that right?

Mr. Voebel.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Were they about the same age?

Mr. Voebel.

Oswald and John?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Voebel.

I don't know; I guess so.

Mr. Jenner.

How about size?

Mr. Voebel.

I think John was a little smaller, a little shorter than Lee.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know what caused the fight?

Mr. Voebel.

No; I don't. I don't remember that.

Mr. Jenner.

But you followed this fight from place to place, did you not?

Mr. Voebel.

Yes.