Mr. Murret.

from the younger years that I had known him. He had improved tremendous as far as intelligence is concerned and his vocabulary, and evidently he tried to impress people, you know, with it, but he was impressive, he was impressive.

Mr. Liebeler.

He seemed to speak well and was articulate?

Mr. Murret.

Right, he was. He used words that an ordinary individual wouldn't use in conversation.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you know that he was arrested by the New Orleans Police Department some time during the summer of 1963 in connection with some difficulties that he got into when he was distributing Fair Play for Cuba Committee literature?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

When did you learn that?

Mr. Murret.

Well, when it was in the paper or when it was on television.

Mr. Liebeler.

At the time?

Mr. Murret.

At the time. Either that or my parents had told me. I don't recall.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have anything to do with getting him out of jail?

Mr. Murret.

Nothing at all.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you know that he was on a radio debate over at WDSU?

Mr. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you hear him?

Mr. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

I understand that Oswald actually called the house out there and told you that he was going to be on the radio, did he not?

Mr. Murret.

Right. He sure did.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have any discussions with him or see him after the radio debate?

Mr. Murret.

If I did see him, I didn't discuss it, you know, with him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever at any time discuss with him this Fair Play for Cuba Committee episode or his radio debate or anything in connection with those events?

Mr. Murret.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do I understand that your sister was involved in the events that led to Oswald's release from jail? Is that correct?

Mr. Murret.

To my understanding, she was.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did she tell you that?

Mr. Murret.

Did she tell me that? That is my oldest sister.

Mr. Liebeler.

What is her name?

Mr. Murret.

Joyce O'Brien.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where does she live?

Mr. Murret.

She lives in Beaumont, Tex.

Mr. Liebeler.

The question was: Did she tell you that she had been involved in getting Oswald out of jail?

Mr. Murret.

I heard something to the effect that while he was in jail he phoned the home. It just so happened my sister was there at the time, because she very seldom comes in, and naturally you want to, you know, see if we could get him out, and she is saying how did he get in there in the first place, and she didn't want to get him out after she heard what he did.

Mr. Liebeler.

She didn't want to get him out after she heard what he did?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you know Oswald as a younger boy?

Mr. Murret.

No; not closely. I can recollect, you know, when he was a small boy, but no particular dealings with him. He was too small to hold any conversation with him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any recollection of what kind of a fellow he was when he was a kid?

Mr. Murret.

He was a nice kid. Just by his pictures and so forth, he was real nice. To me he was harmful [sic].

Mr. Liebeler.

What?

Mr. Murret.

Harmful.

Mr. Liebeler.

Harmful?

Mr. Murret.

Harmless.