Mr. Wulf.

talked to McBride or McBride had talked to him during the time they were working together at Pfisterer's Dental Laboratory, and I believe he got in touch with me on the telephone about getting into the group and I told him--he asked me could he come over to the house one time, and I believe he soon did. I don't remember the time that elapsed between what I believe was the phone call and then the actual visit.

Mr. Liebeler.

This fellow that called you and then came over to your house did work at Pfisterer's Dental Laboratory? Is that correct?

Mr. Wulf.

Most definitely; yes. That is what gave me reason to associate Oswald with this particular person.

Mr. Liebeler.

This association was made by you at some time subsequent to the assassination. Is that correct?

Mr. Wulf.

Yes; subsequent. I believe it was either the Saturday night following the assassination or Sunday morning before I got the call from the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Mr. Liebeler.

You had read in the paper that Lee Oswald had been employed while living here in New Orleans by Pfisterer's Dental Laboratory, and then you associated Oswald----

Mr. Wulf.

No; not actually. I had remembered he had lived in New Orleans, and then I tended to associate the name too and the picture, and then I subsequently found out--I confirmed it when I asked the FBI agent did this particular person at one time work for Pfisterer's, and he said he believed he did, and that to me confirmed it was the same person.

Mr. Liebeler.

So you had already associated in your mind the name Lee Oswald with this fellow that called you, and also the pictures that you saw in the paper?

Mr. Wulf.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And then as a result of that association, you asked the FBI whether this man had been employed by Pfisterer's?

Mr. Wulf.

That is correct. One other thing made me come to the association, other than--I must stipulate at this time that when I had met him he spoke of communism and communistic association that he would like to achieve, and this also aided in this conclusion that I came to.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now how did it come to be, if you know, that the FBI interviewed you?

Mr. Wulf.

I have no idea.

Mr. Liebeler.

You did not contact the FBI?

Mr. Wulf.

No; I did not, because I was not absolutely sure, and it was a Sunday, either a Saturday night or Sunday, and during the chaos on the situation, and I believe I was personally affected by it as everyone else was personally affected by it, and I really did not think that the little knowledge I had would be important. I was even surprised that I got your letter from the Commission.

Mr. Liebeler.

The agent that interviewed you didn't indicate in any way as to how they had been led to you?

Mr. Wulf.

In no way whatsoever. As far as I know, the only person that knew that I had met Oswald, and that it was Oswald, was Palmer McBride, so I concluded that he probably got in touch with the FBI on the subject, or someone got in touch with them, and then that is how they got this particular knowledge.

Mr. Liebeler.

When did you first make McBride's acquaintance? Do you remember?

Mr. Wulf.

Yes. I will have to clarify that. I can get the records from the Astronomy Club, but I believe it was 1954 that is a rough date probably towards the end, probably--let's see--I am trying to associate it with the Astronomy Club dates--towards the end of the school year 1954--55, so that would probably be in---oh, March and April, around that.

Mr. Liebeler.

Of 1955?

Mr. Wulf.

Of 1955, yes. It is sketchy. I really cannot say for sure. I could probably get it from the Astronomy Club's records, but----

Mr. Liebeler.

The occasion of your first meeting was that he came to join the Astronomy Association----

Mr. Wulf.

That is correct.