Mrs. Murret.

that a lady, a neighbor, or whoever they heard it from, said that a lady with a station wagon was there. I said, "Well, probably that's the same lady who brought Marina here from Texas, and took them back to Texas."

Mr. Jenner.

This was the 20th of September, is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, I think so, and that's the last I knew of them. I never heard anything else about them, but now, I skipped over something--in between that time he called one time, and he said Mrs. Paine was going up to see her relatives, I think, and that she was going to pass through New Orleans and visit with them, but he didn't say that they were leaving with her and going back to Texas, or anything like that. He just said Mrs. Paine was going to come through here and visit with them. He also said that Mrs. Paine knew a Tulane professor.

Mr. Jenner.

A Tulane professor?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir; a Tulane professor. He could have been a language professor, I imagine, because I remember him saying that he had a daughter that was attending the university in Moscow, and they either went to his home or they came over to Lee's house. That I didn't get straight, and he showed slides, and so forth, on Russia, the way I understand it.

Mr. Jenner.

Who showed the slides?

Mrs. Murret.

The professor, but I think Mrs. Paine was the one who knew the professor and all that.

Mr. Jenner.

You say his daughter is in school in Moscow?

Mrs. Murret.

He is supposed to have a daughter in the university over there, yes, sir; or he did have. That was my understanding.

Mr. Jenner.

In Moscow?

Mrs. Murret.

I think he said Moscow, but that's the last I heard from Lee Oswald and Marina.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, tell me one thing you left out?

Mrs. Murret.

What's that?

Mr. Jenner.

The trip over to Mobile.

Mrs. Murret.

Oh. Well, that came in--I don't remember the date.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it sometime in July or August of 1963, somewhere around there?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, Lee wasn't working about that time, and my son Gene was over in Mobile, and he hadn't seen Lee for a long time, and he had asked if we could bring Lee over so he could see him. Gene had graduated from Loyola and had went into the Service. He was in there for about 3 years, and when they were activated, they went into Germany and everything, and when he came back he entered law school and went to law school.

Mr. Jenner.

At Loyola?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, for 3 years, and then he decided to become a Jesuit.

Mr. Jenner.

A Jesuit priest?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes. So he was over at Mobile by then, and naturally when I wrote to him I told him about Lee, and he said he would like very much to see Lee, and that he would like for Lee to come up there and bring Marina up and visit him, so we arranged to take Marina and Lee up to Mobile. We left on a Saturday around noon, and I believe Joyce was with us, and also her two children.

Mr. Jenner.

How long were you gone on that trip?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, we came back that Sunday afternoon, or, we left there about 2 o'clock, I think it was.

Mr. Jenner.

Had there been any discussion in advance about Lee giving a lecture or anything to the boys there at that school?

Mrs. Murret.

Not that I know of.

Mr. Jenner.

What's the name of that school, Mrs. Murret?

Mrs. Murret.

What school is that?

Mr. Jenner.

At Mobile?

Mrs. Murret.

Where Gene was?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Murret.

The Jesuit House of Study.

Mr. Jenner.

The Jesuit House of Study at Mobile, Ala.?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, Mobile. So Gene asked us to bring Lee and Marina over,