Mrs. Murret.

so that's why he went and put it in the telephone book, rather than Charles, so that they would know who he was, I guess.

Mr. Jenner.

Does he still use that name?

Mrs. Murret.

He does.

Mr. Jenner.

Is your telephone listed in that name?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; that's what I said. It's still listed that way. His uncle gave him that nickname when he was a small child, and I always knew him by the name of "Dutz." I never call him anything else but that, but his family always called him Charles.

Mr. Jenner.

What business is he in?

Mrs. Murret.

What's that?

Mr. Jenner.

What is your husband's business again?

Mrs. Murret.

He works as a clerk.

Mr. Jenner.

Is there anything else you can remember about Lee Oswald, the father of Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mrs. Murret.

I don't remember anything else; no. I didn't know anything about him at all other than being an insurance clerk and coming around the house to collect insurance. He sort of maybe seemed to be a little forward maybe, I thought, but, like a lot of insurance men, maybe it helps on the debits, you know.

Mr. Jenner.

He was aggressive in collecting the accounts; do you mean?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

But not forward in any other respect?

Mrs. Murret.

No; not that I know of.

Mr. Jenner.

I mean he was a gentleman?

Mrs. Murret.

As far as I know.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know anything about his family?

Mrs. Murret.

I know nothing about the Oswald family. I only met one brother who was the godfather of Lee---little Lee Oswald, you know--and I think his name was Harvey, maybe. I wouldn't be sure about that.

Mr. Jenner.

Harvey?

Mrs. Murret.

I believe that's what it was, but that's about all I know about the Oswald family. He's the only one I knew or ever saw.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know where Harvey Oswald is now?

Mrs. Murret.

He's dead now. I just saw him one time, and that was after Lee was born. He came over to the house, and I think they were friendly with Marguerite and all, but all of a sudden there was no more friendship. I don't know why.

Mr. Jenner.

Did this friendship terminate while the marriage still existed, or was it afterward?

Mrs. Murret.

I think afterward. I don't know whether there was any friendship with the Oswald family during this marriage or not. I couldn't say. She never spoke about it, but I do know, after the death of the brother, they had some dissension about something. I don't know what, but that ended that friendship with the Oswalds.

Mr. Jenner.

As far as you know or were advised, that was never repaired was it?

Mrs. Murret.

I don't think so.

Mr. Jenner.

Your sister married Mr. Ekdahl?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And your recollection of that event is what?

Mrs. Murret.

What do you mean?

Mr. Jenner.

What do you remember about that incident?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, I don't know anything about the marriage at all, other than what you have told me about it. I only met Mr. Ekdahl one time, and they were about to. be married about that time it seems like, and they say that Mr. Ekdahl was a sick man and had a bad heart, and he was a little older than she was, and she didn't seem very enthusiastic about marrying Mr. Ekdahl, and that's when his sister came down here and she liked Marguerite a lot, and she said, "Why don't you go ahead and marry him? He is lonesome," and so forth, so she just decided, I guess, to marry Ed.

Mr. Jenner.

His name was Edward Ekdahl?