Mr. Jenner.

That's all right; take your time. Do you recall about when that was?

Mrs. Murret.

When she married Mr. Ekdahl?

Mr. Jenner.

No; that you had the care of Lee in your home.

Mrs. Murret.

That I had what?

Mr. Jenner.

When Lee came to live with you temporarily; when was that?

Mrs. Murret.

Oh, when he was about 3 years old.

Mr. Jenner.

That would have been about 1942; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And he stayed with you until about the time that Marguerite married Mr. Ekdahl; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Around that time, or a little before. She might have taken him a little bit before, a few months before she married Ekdahl. I don't recall exactly how that was now.

Mr. Jenner.

She married Ekdahl in 1948; so at that time Lee would have been 9 years old; isn't that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes; that's right. Well, then I didn't have Lee that long; not from 3 years old. He wasn't with me all that time.

Mr. Jenner.

How long do you think it was that you had Lee in your home on that occasion?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, I might have had Lee about 2 years.

Mr. Jenner.

Would that have been from 1942 to 1943, or 1944; somewhere in there?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes sir.

Mr. Jenner.

He was 3 years old when he came with you; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

What's that?

Mr. Jenner.

He was 3 years old?

Mrs. Murret.

About 3; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

When he came with you?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

How old was he when he left?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, he was about 5 or pretty near that age, when he left me.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, that keys in with this information I have. When he was about 5 years old, did he join his brothers out at the Bethlehem orphanage?

Mrs. Murret.

He did. He was out there for a while.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he come from your home to the orphanage?

Mrs. Murret.

I really don't know that.

Mr. Jenner.

I thought there might have been some incident as to why he was placed in the orphanage with his two brothers.

Mrs. Murret.

Well, the incident could have been---I don't know if it was that or not, but maybe it was just that I couldn't take care of him any more, or something like that; I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

You don't have any clear recollection on that score?

Mrs. Murret.

No; I don't.

Mr. Jenner.

But you do have a sufficient recollection that he was about 5 years old?

Mrs. Murret.

About; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

When he left your home?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And you do remember Lee being lodged at the Bethlehem orphanage home with his two brothers, do you?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you visit the boys out there at any time?

Mr. Murret.

I visited out there with Marguerite.

Mr. Jenner.

And that was on what; a weekend?

Mrs. Murret.

I think it was. They had a party for the home out there, and the children themselves seemed to be very happy out there. It's an old place, but a very nice place, and it was run by a man and his wife. The children were included in everything, and the doors were kept open. In other words, the children were allowed to go out and play marbles on the outside, and they