Mr. Ball.

Did you see the officer strike Oswald with his fist?

Mr. Applin.

No, sir; I do not believe so.

Mr. Ball.

Now, how many officers were struggling with Oswald when you saw the officer strike him with the butt end of the shotgun?

Mr. Applin.

I believe about four.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see them handcuff Oswald?

Mr. Applin.

Uh-huh?

Mr. Ball.

Did you see them handcuff the man?

Mr. Applin.

No, sir; I didn't actually see the handcuffing.

Mr. Ball.

What did you see them do after the struggle?

Mr. Applin.

Well, they were scuffling, and they were over to the middle, about the far side of the aisle, and come up the other side of the aisle.

Mr. Ball.

With the man?

Mr. Applin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And then when they went out, did they come out through the doors?

Mr. Applin.

Yes, sir; they came up through and one of the officers hollered out, "Don't let nobody see him," and they came in right behind me.

Mr. Ball.

In behind you?

Mr. Applin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And went on out?

Mr. Applin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And did you go out and follow them out?

Mr. Applin.

No, sir; I went out to the candy counter out there and the officer said, if there's anybody in there that seen it--and asked--there was about two or three, the candyman himself, and said--that one boy said that he seen him, through the front--I mean out from behind the picture where it came out---supposed to came out behind the picture.

Mr. Ball.

Did you give them your name there?

Mr. Applin.

He asked my name and address and where I was staying at the time.

Mr. Ball.

Later did you go down to the police station and make a statement?

Mr. Applin.

Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Ball.

When?

Mr. Applin.

Well, it was after--I guess after they got everybody's name. I rode down with three officers.

Mr. Ball.

That same day, did you?

Mr. Applin.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't go back to the picture show?

Mr. Applin.

Yes, sir; I did. There was a patrolman that carried me back out and I was going to see the rest of it, but I never did get back in time to.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't get to see the show?

Mr. Applin.

Well, I seen part of it, but I didn't get to see all of it.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see the man they arrested at the theatre?

Mr. Applin.

No, sir; I didn't see him after that.

Mr. Ball.

Now, I have talked to you a little while before we took your deposition, didn't I?

Mr. Applin.

I wasn't actually; no, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Well, I mean, you and I came up----

Mr. Applin.

Oh, yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And we sat and talked a few minutes?

Mr. Applin.

Yes, sir; we did.

Mr. Ball.

And you have told us everything that you told me before----

Mr. Applin.

This was taken here?
Mr. BALL. Before it was taken.
Mr. APPLIN. Yes; I believe I did.

Mr. Ball.

This will be written up, and you will have a chance to read it and sign it. You can waive your signature and we'll forward it to the Commission just as you have said it here in the way this young lady has written it up. Does it make any difference to you now?

Mr. Applin.

No, sir; it don't make any difference. Anyway you do it.

Mr. Ball.

You are waiving your signature then, are you?

Mr. Applin.

Well, I will sign it if you want me to.