Mr. Ball.
By whom?
Mr. Smith.
FBI agent.
Mr. Ball.
What was the color of the hair in the picture?
Mr. Smith.
Brown.
Mr. Ball.
What did you see? What did you tell the FBI agent about the appearance of the man in the picture?
Mr. Smith.
I said it looked more like him than it did on television.
Mr. Ball.
And did you think when he showed you the picture that it looked anything like the man you had seen running away?
Mr. SMITH. What I saw of him; yes.
Mr. Ball.
First time you ever saw this man was after you heard these shots?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Is that right? You had never seen him walking?
Mr. Smith.
No.
Mr. Ball.
You hadn't seen him walking in front of the house?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Where you were standing?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
What kind of clothes did he have on when he shot the officer?
Mr. Smith.
He had on dark pants--just a minute. He had on dark pants and a sport coat of some kind. I can't really remember very well.
Mr. Ball.
I will show you a coat----
Mr. Smith.
This looks like it.
Mr. Ball.
This is Commission's Exhibit 162, a grey, zippered jacket. Have you ever seen this before?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir; that looks like what he had on. A jacket.
Mr. Ball.
That is the jacket he had on?
Mr. Smith.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Now, when the deposition is completed it will be written up and you will have a right to look it over and sign it, or if you want to you can waive your signature. They will accept your waiver and send it on to the Commission without it. Do you have any choice on that?
Mr. Smith.
I will sign it. It don't make any difference to me.
Mr. Ball.
Would you just as leave waive your signature?
Mr. Smith.
Ever what that means.
Mr. Ball.
That means you don't have to sign it.
Mr. Smith.
I Will sign it.
Mr. Ball.
Do you want to sign it?
Mr. Smith.
Yes; I will sign it.
Mr. Ball.
Okay. Do you have a telephone number?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Well, the young lady will notify you when you can come in and sign it.
I thank you very much.
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George Jefferson Applin, Jr.
Testimony of George Jefferson , Jr. Applin
The testimony of George Jefferson Applin, Jr. was taken at 4:05 p.m., on April 2, 1964, in the office of the U.S, attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Joseph A. Ball, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
Mr. Ball.
Will you stand up, Mr. Applin, and we--raise your right hand to be sworn, please.
Mr. Applin.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give for this Commission will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Mr. Applin.
I do.
Mr. Ball.
Will you be seated, please, and state your name for the record.
