Mr. Hudson.

had done got further on down Elm, and you see, I was trying to get a good look at President Kennedy. I happened to be looking right at him when that bullet hit him---the second shot.

Mr. Liebeler.

That was when the bullet him him in the head; is that correct?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes; it looked like it hit him somewhere along about a little bit behind the ear and a little bit above the ear.

Mr. Liebeler.

On the right-hand side or the left-hand side?

Mr. Hudson.

Right hand.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you tell me approximately where the President's car was when you heard what you later figured out was the first shot?

Mr. Hudson.

Well, the best I could get right off--I remember it was right along about this lightpost right here.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are indicating the first lightpost on the right-hand side of Elm Street?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes; coming off of Houston, you see, there's a lightpost right there close to the Houston Street, right there, just above this little crook right there.

Mr. Liebeler.

That lightpost doesn't show in the picture you have here?

Mr. Hudson.

No, sir; it doesn't show in the picture---it was about, I believe, where the first shot was fired.

Mr. Liebeler.

You think he was by the lightpost in this picture when the first shot was fired?

Mr. Hudson.

Right along there is about where President Kennedy's car was when he was hit--at the time I was looking right at him when the shot struck him, when the bullet struck him.

Mr. Liebeler.

How many shots did you hear altogether?

Mr. Hudson.

Three.

Mr. Liebeler.

Three shots?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Are you sure about that?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

You say that it was the second shot that hit him in the head; is that right?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes; I do believe that--I know it was.

Mr. Liebeler.

You saw him hit in the head, there wasn't any question in your mind about that, was there?

Mr. Hudson.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

And after you saw him hit in the head, did you hear another shot?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you see, that shot hit anything--the third shot?

Mr. Hudson.

No, sir. I'll tell you--this young fellow that was sitting there with me---standing there with me at the present time, he says, "Lay down, Mister, somebody is shooting the President." He says, "Lay down, lay and he kept on repeating, "Lay down," so he was already laying down one way on the sidewalk, so I just laid down over on the ground and resting my arm on the ground and when that third shot rung out and when I was close to the ground--you could tell the shot was coming from above and kind of behind.

Mr. Liebeler.

How could you tell that?

Mr. Hudson.

Well, just the sound of it.

Mr. Liebeler.

You heard it come from sort of behind the motorcade and then above?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes; I don't know if you have ever laid down close to the ground, you know, when you heard the reports coming, but it's a whole lot plainer than it is when you are standing up in the air.

Mr. Liebeler.

You were standing down here where we put the "X"?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You say that when the President was hit in the head he was up here by the first lamppost on the right-hand side of the post that shows in the picture?

Mr. Hudson.

Yes; right along in here.

Mr. Liebeler.

That's when he got hit in the head?