(Testimony of Joe Marshall Smith)
Mr. Liebeler.
So to the best of your recollection, it was one of those two men?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir. Wait---let's strike that. No; it wasn't. It was Chief Lumpkin give us the direct order, I and Barnett, not to let anyone in or out of that building; that's right--Deputy Chief Lumpkin.
Mr. Liebeler.
Where did you see him in order to receive that order?
Mr. Smith.
I started back up here to the building, and we were just about at the front door when he contacted me and Barnett then.
Mr. Liebeler.
He instructed you and Barnett to stand at the front door and not let anyone in or out?
Mr. Smith.
Right.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know approximately what time that was?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir; it must have been about 1. It was after I o'clock. I don't remember; no.
Mr. Liebeler.
How long did you and Barnett remain there at the front door?
Mr. Smith.
Until about 2:30; I think I got off there.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you at any time go into the building?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know whether other men were assigned to watch the back door?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir; I don't know. I am quite certain there was.
Mr. Liebeler.
But you had no personal knowledge of it at the time?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Because you were assigned to the front door, and that is where you stayed?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
In fact, did you let anybody in or out of the building?
Mr. Smith.
Well, now, we let police officers in, of course, and firemen.
Mr. Liebeler.
The firemen came into the building?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir; there was something on that that they had to get some--- what was that, I don't recall what it was that they come in there for now.
Mr. Liebeler.
There were some firemen from the Dallas Fire Department that went into the building?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did they come back to the front door?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
How about Secret Service; were there any Secret Service agents around?
Mr. Smith.
I don't know, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you know Agent Sorrels, the agent in charge of the Dallas office of the Secret Service?
Mr. Smith.
I saw him a few minutes, but I don't know him personally.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember seeing him around that day?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir; I don't remember.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you at any time see Lee Harvey Oswald come in or out of the building, or in the area at all?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Is there anything that happened while you were standing there with Barnett at the front door that you think would be of significance that the Commission should know about that I haven't asked you about?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir; I don't.
Mr. Liebeler.
You just maintained the general guard duty there and only let the police officers and fire department in, and you don't have any specific recollection as to Secret Service agents. How about FBI agents; were there some of those?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir; there were FBI agents.
Mr. Liebeler.
You let them go in?
Mr. Smith.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember any specific FBI agents that were there?
Mr. Smith.
No, sir; I don't remember any of the names.
Mr. Liebeler.
Who finally relieved you from that particular duty post?
Mr. Smith.
Let me think here a minute now. Chief Lumpkin, I know--I don't recall who the officer was.
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