Mr. Liebeler.

the side of the Texas School Book Depository Building from which the shots were fired?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir; I could see some of the windows. I couldn't see them all, but I was pretty busy getting traffic held up, and I must admit I had my back to the Texas School Book Depository Building.

Mr. Liebeler.

Because you were facing traffic that was coming down Elm Street toward the triple underpass toward the intersection of Houston Street?

Mr. Smith.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

So you had no opportunity to scan the windows of the Texas School Book Depository Building at all?

Mr. Smith.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you did not scan the building?

Mr. Smith.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now did you notice anything extraordinary in the crowd as far as a crowd control is concerned? Did you have any problems in that connection, or was it just a matter of holding up the traffic?

Mr. Smith.

No, sir; we didn't have any trouble with the crowd at that .particular intersection. They stayed back pretty well as they were told, and I got all the cars stopped, so I thought we had it made.

Mr. Liebeler.

I show you a picture, an aerial view of the area that is marked Commission Exhibit No. 354. Could you locate the Texas School Book Depository Building in there?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir; it should be right there.

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes; that is it on the left-hand side of the picture, and of course, the intersection of Elm and Houston is right off opposite the corner there, right at the corner of the Texas School Book Depository Building, and you were standing to the east?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir; right here.

Mr. Liebeler.

Of Houston?

Mr. Smith.

Right along in this area.

Mr. Liebeler.

There is, in fact, a picture of a car stopped there right at the intersection of Elm and Houston, and you had been standing back in the vicinity of the automobile?

Mr. Smith.

Just about the middle of Elm Street here.

Mr. Liebeler.

I will put the No. 4 in a circle on the spot of approximately where you were standing at the time the motorcade went by. Is that approximately correct?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

You were facing east up Elm Street away from the triple underpass?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

So that your back was in fact turned to the School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now there are two or three other buildings here in the immediate vicinity as you are facing east on Elm Street. There is a building on your left, which is directly across Houston Street from the School Book Depository Building. Do you know what building that is?

Mr. Smith.

I know, but I can't remember now.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you observe any activity in any of the windows of that building?

Mr. Smith.

No, sir; I didn't

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have occasion to look to the windows of that building at any time when the motorcade came by? That would be the building to your left.

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir. I don't recall, but I know that I must have, because. I was trying to keep all the crowd in sight that was around. I know that I must have glanced at it, but I don't recall seeing anything unusual.

Mr. Liebeler.

What about the building across Elm Street on your right? That is the county building?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

There are a series of windows in that building facing the