Mr. Liebeler.

And you think you might have been standing somewhere behind the spot where that convertible is located in this picture; is that right?

Mrs. Baker.

Either there or right in here.

Mr. Liebeler.

Right in back around the second car behind the Volkswagen?

Mrs. Baker.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, this picture actually shows the little grassy area and the trees that lie between Elm Street and the little street that runs in front of the Texas School Book Depository, doesn't it?

Mrs. Baker.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you give me an estimate, looking at this picture, where that thing might have hit the street?

Mrs. Baker.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

It may not be in this picture--I don't know that it is.

Mrs. Baker.

I just can't tell--I would say it was over in here somewhere in this picture.

Mr. Liebeler.

Somewhere in about here?

Mrs. Baker.

It could have been further on up.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, we will mark the place "X", but you think it might have been right along here or somewhere farther down. Now, is there a concrete divider somewhere here on Elm Street?

Mrs. Baker.

Not until you pass the underpass.

Mr. Liebeler.

Not until you get down here towards the underpass and then there are concrete dividers here between Elm Street and Main Street?

Mrs. Baker.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Back up here toward the intersection at Houston Street, there is a curb on the side of Elm Street and that's all?

Mrs. Baker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

In other words, you turn down from Houston Street and go right on down Elm Street?

Mrs. Baker.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You saw this thing hit the street before you heard the second shot; is that correct?

Mrs. Baker.

Yes, sir; yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Are you absolutely sure of that?

Mrs. Baker.

I hope I am--I know I am.

Mr. Liebeler.

In marking the "X" on Baker Exhibit No. 1 that we marked, we were assuming, were we not, that the "X" was fairly near the first sign on the right-hand side of Elm Street going toward the triple underpass after the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mrs. Baker.

I think that's right.

Mr. Liebeler.

I think that we will find that the "X" is--well, it is very difficult to tell the exact spot from which Baker Exhibit No. 1 was taken, but if in fact we are correct, if in fact it is taken from the side of Main Street toward Commerce Street, then the "X" would not be in the right place, would it, if this lamppost here that appears in the picture is actually at the end of the grassy spot made by Main Street and Elm Street, then the "X" that we have on Baker Exhibit No. 1 would be too far down toward the Triple Underpass to be in the right place where you saw it hit, isn't that right; do you follow me?

Mrs. Baker.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Because, if this is actually the end of this grassy spot, if the lamppost is actually the end of the grassy spot here between Elm Street and Main Street, this "X, is very close to the Triple Underpass.

Mrs. Baker.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you didn't see the bullet hit that far down the street, did you?

Mrs. Baker.

No; not that far.

Mr. Liebeler.

It would have been much closer, up towards the Texas School Book Depository Building--near the first sign?

Mrs. Baker.

This right here are the steps--to the plaza.

Mr. Liebeler.

That's right, and as a point of fact, as we look at that now, it becomes quite clear that it was taken from a spot much closer to the triple