Mr. Ball.

Now, will you state your name, please?

Mr. Truly.

Roy S. Truly.

Mr. Ball.

And you are superintendent of the Texas School Book Depository?

Mr. Truly.

That's correct.

Mr. Ball.

Is that your title?

Mr. Truly.

And a director of the Depository.

Mr. Ball.

You have been employed by the Depository for a number of years?

Mr. Truly.

Since 1934; since 1934.

Mr. Ball.

You testified before the Commission in Washington, you say, on the 24th of March 1964; did you not?

Mr. Truly.

That's right.

Mr. Ball.

Your testimony is filed in volume 28, I believe, of the Commission here. There are certain matters which have come to the attention of the Commission since then that I would like to inquire about, and that's the reason we are taking your deposition, which will be in addition to the testimony you have already given.
Do you recall anytime that you saw any guns in the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Truly.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Ball.

Prior to November 22, 1963?

Mr. Truly.

Yes; I saw two guns on November 20.

Mr. Ball.

Whose guns were they?

Mr. Truly.

They belonged to Mr. Warren Caster.

Mr. Ball.

Now, before inquiring into the circumstances of seeing two guns that belonged to Mr. Warren Caster on November 20, 1963, I'll ask you whether or not you ever at anytime before that time or after that time saw guns in the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Truly.

Never before.

Mr. Ball.

Never before, and between that date Wednesday, November 20, and Friday, November 22, did you ever see any guns in the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Truly.

I did see guns in there after the assassination.

Mr. Ball.

That is, you saw guns of police officers?

Mr. Truly.

Of the police officers.

Mr. Ball.

Carried by police officers?

Mr. Truly.

Yes; and I saw a rifle being carried from the building.

Mr. Ball.

In other words, a rifle was found on the sixth floor?

Mr. Truly.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

You saw that in place on the sixth floor?

Mr. Truly.

No; I did not.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't?

Mr. Truly.

I only saw the rifle as they were going out the front door.

Mr. Ball.

Before the assassination, was there any other occasion besides the one we are inquiring about, when you saw guns in the Texas School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Truly.

Never.

Mr. Ball.

On November 20, 1963, you saw two guns owned by Mr. Warren Caster, can you tell me where and when and the circumstances under which you saw these guns?

Mr. Truly.

It was during the lunch period or right at the end of the lunch period on November 20. Mr. Caster came in the door from the first floor and spoke to me and showed me two rifles that he had just purchased. I looked at these and picked up the larger one of the two and examined it and handed it back to Mr. Caster, with the remark that it was really a handsome rifle or words to that effect, at which time Mr. Caster explained to me that he had bought himself a rifle to go deer hunting with, and he hadn't had one and he had been intending to buy one for a long time, and that he had also bought a .22 rifle for his boy.

Mr. Ball.

Did you handle the .22 rifle?

Mr. Truly.

Not that I recall.

Mr. Ball.

You did see it, though?

Mr. Truly.

I did see it.