Mr. Waldman.

That's correct.

Mr. Belin.

Now, when we examined. Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 1, had a control number of which the last four numbers were T749, and when you shipped the rifle, you had the control number with the last four numbers as T750; otherwise the control number is the same. Could you tell us what accounts for the difference?

Mr. Waldman.

Yes; these numbers that you referred to are not control numbers, as previously stated. These are known as catalog numbers. The number C20-T749 describes a rifle only, whereas the catalog No. C20-T750 describes the Italian carbine rifle with a four-power scope, which is sold as a package unit.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember what the rifle would have cost without the scope?

Mr. Waldman.

As I recall, it was either $12.78 or $12.95.

Mr. Belin.

Would the advertisement run in the Rifleman's Magazine of February 1963, have given the purchaser the option to buy with or without the if you remember?

Mr. Waldman.

Without specific reference to the ad, I would say that it Most usually we did.

Mr. Belin.

And the purchaser would signify his preference in what manner?

Mr. Waldman.

The customer designates whether he wants the rifle only or whether he wants the rifle with the scope by his selection of catalog numbers.

Mr. Belin.

When this rifle came to your company, was the scope already mounted on it when you got it from Crescent?

Mr. Waldman.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Who put the scope on the rifle?

Mr. Waldman.

The scope was mounted on the rifle in our gun ,shop, most probably by a gunsmith named William Sharp.

Mr. Belin.

Would Mr. Sharp drill whatever holes were necessary for the mounting and do the actual mounting then himself?

Mr. Waldman.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Would Mr. Sharp or anyone else in your company in any way sight in the sight, whether it would be boresighting or actual firing with the sight?

Mr. Waldman.

No; it's very unlikely in an inexpensive rifle of this sort that he would do anything other than roughly aline the scope with the rifle.

Mr. Belin.

Do you have any records which show where you purchased the scope?

Mr. Waldman.

It's reasonably certain the scope was purchased from Martin B. Retting, Inc., 1129 Washington Boulevard, Culver City, Calif.

Mr. Belin.

Would it have any identification on the scope itself, if you know?

Mr. Waldman.

It's most probable it carried the name "Ordnance Optics."

Mr. Belin.

Now, Mr. Waldman, perhaps we'd better further identify the microfilm which show your control numbers. We marked the microfilm as Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 6. Do you have any control numbers on this at all which indicate which microfilm this is?

Mr. Waldman.

This is our film No. 38, which covers our transactions Nos. 269688 through 270596.

Mr. Belin.

And I believe that you already testified to the control number or transaction number that appears on Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 7 as being number what?

Mr. Waldman.

270502.

Mr. Belin.

Mr. Waldman, referring to Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 3, which are the serial numbers of the 100 rifles which were made in this shipment from Crescent Firearms to you, and Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 5, which is the invoice from Crescent Firearms which has stamped on it that it was paid by your company on March 4, is there any way to verify that this payment pertained to rifles which are shown on Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 3?

Mr. Waldman.

The forms submitted by Crescent Firearms showing serial numbers of rifles included in the shipment covered by their invoice No. 3178 indicate that the rifle carrying serial No. C-2766 was included in that shipment.

Mr. Belin.

Now, those forms----