Mr. Belin.

Did he say what community in Mexico he went to?

Mr. Holmes.

Mexico City.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say what he did while he was there?

Mr. Holmes.

He went to the Mexican consulate, I guess.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Belin.

Now, with regard to this Mexican trip, did he say who he saw in Mexico?
Mr. HOLMES. Only that he went to the Mexican consulate or Embassy or something and wanted to get permission, or whatever it took to get to Cuba. They refused him and he became angry and he said he burst out of there, and I don't know. I don't recall now why he went into the business about how mad it made him.
He goes over to the Russian Embassy. He was already at the American. This was the Mexican--he wanted to go to Cuba.
Then he went to the Russian Embassy and he said, because he said then he wanted to go to Russia by way of Cuba, still trying to get to Cuba and try that angle and they refused and said, "Come back in 30 days," or something like that. And, he went out of there angry and disgusted.

Mr. Belin.

Did he go to the Cuban Embassy, did he say or not?

Mr. Holmes.

He may have gone there first, but the best of my recollection, it might have been Cuban and then the Russian, wherever he went at first, he wanted to get to Cuba, and then he went to the Russian to go by Cuba.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say why he wanted to go to Cuba?

Mr. Holmes.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Did--this wasn't reported in your interview in the memorandum that you wrote?

Mr. Holmes.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Is this something that you think you might have picked up from just reading the papers, or is this something you remember hearing?

Mr. Holmes.

That is what he said in there.

Mr. Belin.

All right; I want to go back to page 2 of this memorandum.
I believe we went through the first paragraph on page 2 when you said that there wasn't anything you cared to add there other than what is reported on this Holmes Deposition Exhibit 4?

Mr. Holmes.

Except what he mentioned about it was easier about the forwarding orders of newspapers. Otherwise, no change.

Mr. Belin.

Now, what about the next paragraph on page 2?

Mr. Holmes.

I think I have covered that.

Mr. Belin.

All right, then. The next paragraph on page 2, which is the third and last paragraph on the page.

Mr. Holmes.

I believe I have mentioned the fact that he was evasive about whether he was actually a member of the American Civil Liberties Union. In this statement I have mentioned that he was evasive about it.

Mr. Belin.

Does that statement cover everything, or is there anything you care to add to that statement?

Mr. Holmes.

I can't think of anything of any particular importance there.

Mr. Belin.

Then turn to page 3, the first paragraph. Is there anything you can or care to add to that paragraph that isn't covered right here?

Mr. Holmes.

All right as is.

Mr. Belin.

What about the second paragraph on page 3?

Mr. Holmes.

I have covered that.

Mr. Belin.

What about the third paragraph which begins with "Marine Corps Service."

Mr. Holmes.

I don't believe that I discussed that yet.

Mr. Belin.

You haven't discussed it, but is there anything you care to add other than what is written on there?

Mr. Holmes.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Did he indicate anything else about Governor Connally?

Mr. Holmes.

No. I have covered that in there. In fact, I got the distinct impression that he showed no flareup, no animosity when Connally's name was mentioned. He simply considered him--somebody was shuffling the papers