Mr. Belin.

Did the newspapermen say anything to you as you went down the hallway to Captain Fritz' office?

Mr. Barnes.

Everytime that you went through there they asked you all kinds of questions on what you had and what were you doing and how much longer is it going to take, and what have you proved.

Mr. Belin.

Did you answer any of these questions?

Mr. Barnes.

No; I did not.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do when you got back in the office in Captain Fritz' office? What did you find there? Who did you find in Captain Fritz' office when you came back?

Mr. Barnes.

Same two officers that I mentioned, besides Detective Dhority and Detective Leavelle.

Mr. Belin.

Was Lee Oswald present?

Mr. Barnes.

Lee Oswald was present.

Mr. Belin.

Did you have any conversation with Oswald at that time?

Mr. Barnes.

None other than telling him that I had to have palm prints of his hand.

Mr. Belin.

Did he have anything to say about that?

Mr. Barnes.

Cooperative.

Mr. Belin.

What is the fact as to whether he made any objection to the taking of any palm prints?

Mr. Barnes.

None whatsoever.

Mr. Belin.

Did he request that he have an attorney present at all, or not?

Mr. Barnes.

He didn't request one. He would not sign the fingerprint card when I asked him. We have a place on this card for the prisoner's signature, and I asked him would he please sign that, and he said he wouldn't sign anything until he talked to an attorney.

Mr. Belin.

Did he ask for an attorney or say anything about an attorney when you took the paraffin test?

Mr. Barnes.

None to me.

Mr. Belin.

What did you say when he said he would not sign the fingerprint card?

Mr. Barnes.

That was all right with me.

Mr. Belin.

Did you just take the palm prints, or did you also take fingerprints?

Mr. Barnes.

We took both.

Mr. Belin.

What is your process of doing that?

Mr. Barnes.

Rolling his hands, an ink roller over his palm, and then we have a metal cylinder bar about an inch in diameter that we place the card on and then roll his hands to make it print on the fingerprint card.

Mr. Belin.

Have you ever taken palm prints before?

Mr. Barnes.

Many times.

Mr. Belin.

Based on your knowledge and information, what is the fact as to whether or not palm prints are distinct means of identification of a person?

Mr. Barnes.

Just as good as fingerprints. The only thing that I could add to that would be, there is no way of classifying palm prints, where with fingerprints, we have the system where we classify them and can go look them up.

Mr. Belin.

Is there anything else that you can offer with reference to the investigation of the assassination or the shooting of Officer Tippit other than the paraffin test and the palm and fingerprint tests that you took?

Mr. Barnes.

None that I can think of right now, ether than printing pictures of both killings.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember anything else that Lee Oswald said other than the fact he would not sign his name to the card?

Mr. BARNES. He had very little to say.

Mr. Belin.

Is there anything else you can think of, whether I have asked it or not, that In anyway might be relevant to this investigation here?

Mr. Barnes.

Not that I can think of at this time.

Mr. Belin.

Now were you on duty on Sunday morning, November 24?

Mr. Barnes.

No; I was not.

Mr. Belin.

Was there any general comment among the police officers, what I call the line officers, about the presence of the press in the police headquarters building during this period of time?