Mr. Barnes.

I believe I am on record that that is the first paraffin test I ever made of a cheek.

Mr. Belin.

Have you ever read periodicals discussing the paraffin test? Any limitations of its use to determine whether or not a person fired a rifle by making a cast of the cheek?

Mr. Barnes.

No; I haven't read anything about it.

Mr. Belin.

Basically then, your reasons for reaching this conclusion are your own personal reasons?

Mr. Barnes.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

What you earlier described as the chamber being an enclosed chamber, is that it?

Mr. Barnes.

That is true.

Mr. Belin.

Which you said that the gases would not come out of under pressure, and when the chamber would be open for the ejection of a shell from a bolt-action rifle, at that time there would be no bad pressure?

Mr. Barnes.

All your pressure is gone forward through your barrel. There is no pressure on the chamber when you operate it after the shot is fired.

Mr. Belin.

In contrast with a nonautomatic revolver, when I pull the trigger, is the back of the chamber open then?

Mr. Barnes.

It is open.

Mr. Belin.

Is there any other information or opinion you can give us with regard to the paraffin tests that might be relevant. Anything you can think of, whether or not I have asked it?

Mr. Barnes.

I believe you have covered just about everything.

Mr. Belin.

I call myself a country lawyer, and I don't know.

Mr. Barnes.

I am a country boy. I was raised on the farm myself.

Mr. Belin.

Well, maybe we both have something in common.

Mr. Barnes.

Still live there.

Mr. Belin.

Sergeant, did you make any other tests or obtain any other evidence or information from Lee Harvey Oswald other than the paraffin that you made?

Mr. Barnes.

I obtained palm prints from Lee Harvey Oswald.

Mr. Belin.

When did you do this?

Mr. Barnes.

Immediately before we made---no, immediately after, I am sorry, immediately after we made the paraffin test.

Mr. Belin.

I would assume you did it afterwards?

Mr. Barnes.

That is right. It was after we made the tests.

Mr. Belin.

Now, when you used the phrase a while ago--I mean that when we were discussing shortly before we were taking this deposition just what you did do insofar as your being involved in this investigation----

Mr. Barnes.

That's right.

Mr. Belin.

In that discussion did I in any way tell you what to say, or did you just tell me what you did in the nature of the proceedings here?

Mr. Barnes.

I told you just what I did. I haven't been prompted by no one.

Mr. Belin.

Now, what did you do when you took the palm print?

Mr. Barnes.

We took them back upstairs to the ID bureau for comparison purposes.

Mr. Belin.

At the time you carried back the paraffin casts?

Mr. Barnes.

No. We came back and got the palm prints after I delivered the paraffin tests upstairs.

Mr. Belin.

Again, would this be normal procedure to take a palm print in Captain Fritz' office as opposed to your own laboratory?

Mr. Barnes.

No; it would be something different. Usually we have them coming up to our identification bureau for that purpose.

Mr. Belin.

Any particular reason that you know of why Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't brought up to your identification bureau?

Mr. Barnes.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

What?

Mr. Barnes.

Security.

Mr. Belin.

Because of the people in the hall?

Mr. Barnes.

The news media in the hallways, and danger of removing Lee Harvey Oswald through the mass of newspapermen.