(Testimony of Richard L. Clark)
Mr. Ball.
What did he ask you?
Mr. Clark.
Name, address, occupation.
Mr. Ball.
And do you remember what you said?
Mr. Clark.
No, sir; they were all fictitious answers.
Mr. Ball.
And again, could you hear anything said in the audience?
Mr. Clark.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
What is your height?
Mr. Clark.
About 5'11".
Mr. Ball.
What is your weight?
Mr. Clark.
About 177.
Mr. Ball.
And your hair?
Mr. Clark.
Blond.
Mr. Ball.
And your eyes?
Mr. Clark.
Blue.
Mr. Ball.
Your complexion is fair?
Mr. Clark.
Fair.
Mr. Ball.
Had you ever taken part in a showup before?
Mr. Clark.
No.
Mr. Ball.
Was it unusual to have an officer, from your experience in the police department, was it unusual to have an officer take part in the police department showup?
Mr. Clark.
No; it wasn't unusual.
Mr. Ball.
You ever helped them before?
Mr. Clark.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
I think that is all.
Will you give your seat to your partner here, and we'll take his deposition.
Don R. Ables
Testimony of Don R. Ables
The testimony of Don R. Ables was taken at 9:45 a.m., on April 9, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Joseph A. Ball, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
Mr. Ball.
Would you stand up and be sworn?
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Mr. Ables.
I do.
Mr. Ball.
Will you state your name, please.
Mr. Ables.
Don R. Ables.
Mr. Ball.
Where do you live, Mr. Ables?
Mr. Ables.
1520 Kingsley, in Garland.
Mr. Ball.
What is your business or occupation?
Mr. Ables.
Jail clerk, Dallas Police Department.
Mr. Ball.
How long have you been a jail clerk in the Dallas Police Department?
Mr. Ables.
About 7 months.
Mr. Ball.
And you are a member of the police department?
Mr. Ables.
I am a civilian employee.
Mr. Ball.
Civilian employee? You are not----
Mr. Ables.
An actual member of the----
Mr. Ball.
An actual member of the department?
Mr. Ables.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Where were you born and raised?
Mr. Ables.
I was born and raised in Hico, Tex.
Mr. Ball.
How do you spell that? You probably know it. I don't.
Mr. Ables.
[Spelling] H-i-c-o.
Mr. Ball.
[Spelling] H-i-c-o. Did you got to school there?
Mr. Ables.
Yes, sir.
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