Mr. Ball.

Sims was behind with you. He was not in the audience?

Mr. Perry.

That's right.

Mr. Ball.

According to the record, did he ask questions from the stage?

Mr. Perry.

From the stage where we were; yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Where you were. Who asked them the first time? Do you know?

Mr. Perry.

I don't recall. I don't know.

Mr. Ball.

But you remember Sims did the second one?

Mr. Perry.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

All right. Will you state your height, please?

Mr. Perry.

About 5'11".

Mr. Ball.

What is your weight?

Mr. Perry.

About 150.

Mr. Ball.

And your hair?

Mr. Perry.

Brown.

Mr. Ball.

And your eyes?

Mr. Perry.

Blue.

Mr. Ball.

Complexion?

Mr. Perry.

I guess medium, fair, I guess.

Mr. Ball.

That's all.

Richard L. Clark

Testimony of Richard L. Clark

The testimony of Richard L. Clark was taken at 9:15 a.m., on April 9, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Joseph A. Ball, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Ball.

Will you stand up and be sworn, please.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Clark.

I do.

Mr. Ball.

Will you state your name, please.

Mr. Clark.

Richard L. Clark.

Mr. Ball.

What is your address, please, your home address?

Mr. Clark.

4927\8 Live Oak.

Mr. Ball.

What is your business or occupation?

Mr. Clark.

Detective for the Dallas Police Department.

Mr. Ball.

How long have you been in the Dallas Police Department?

Mr. Clark.

Eleven years.

Mr. Ball.

Where were you born and raised?

Mr. Clark.

Dallas, Tex.

Mr. Ball.

Go through school here?

Mr. Clark.

Went to school in Irving..

Mr. Ball.

What did you do after that?

Mr. Clark.

After I went to school?

Mr. Ball.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Clark.

I went to work.

Mr. Ball.

Where? Let me explain to you that the Commission isn't going to see you personally, they ask us to find out something about you and where you were born and your early education, what you have done most of your life, try to get some idea of who is giving the testimony.

Mr. Clark.

Worked for Merchants Retail Credit Association before the police department.

Mr. Ball.

What kind of word do you do on the police department?

Mr. Clark.

Vice squad detective.

Mr. Ball.

On the 22d of November 1963, you took part in some showup of the police department, did you?

Mr. Clark.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

How many?