Mr. Ball.

Did you ask him what his address was?

Mr. Rose.

Yes; but from there, he wouldn't tell me--he just said, "You just find out."

Mr. Ball.

Now, did anybody ever tell you that his address was 1026 North Beckley?

Mr. Rose.

Later they did--right then they didn't; no, sir.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't know it at that time?

Mr. Rose.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Ball.

How soon after that did you go out to Irving--to the Irving Street address?

Mr. Rose.

In just a few minutes Captain Fritz came in and he instructed me to get two men and go to Irving to the Ruth Paine home and so I went immediately.

Mr. Ball.

Did he tell you "the Ruth Paine home," or did he tell you to go to a certain address in Irving?

Mr. Rose.

I believe he gave me the address.

Mr. Ball.

What was the address?

Mr. Rose.

2515 West Fifth in Irving.

Mr. Ball.

How many men went out there?

Mr. Rose.

There was me, and Detective Adamcik and Detective Stovall, and on the way, we radioed and asked for a county unit to meet us, and we were met by Detectives Harry Weatherford, E.W. Walthers, and J.L. Oxford, detectives for the county CID--we waited about 40 minutes and they came and met us.

Mr. Ball.

Did you have a search warrant?

Mr. Rose.

No; we didn't.

Mr. Ball.

How did you get in the house?

Mr. Rose.

We walked up to the house, me and Stovall and one of the county officers, and I could hear the TV was playing, and I could see the door was standing open--the front door was--and I could see two people sitting inside the living room on the couch, and just as soon as we walked up on the porch, Ruth Paine came to the door. She apparently recognized us--she said, "I've been expecting you all," and we identified ourselves, and she said, "Well, I've been expecting you to come out. Come right on in."

Mr. Ball.

Did she say why she had been expecting you?

Mr. Rose.

She said, "Just as soon as I heard where the shooting happened. I knew there would be someone out."

Mr. Ball.

You took part in the search, didn't you?

Mr. Rose.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Ball.

What part did you take?

Mr. Rose.

Well, I was the senior detective that was there, and so I was sort of the spokesman for the group, I suppose, and Stovall wen into the bedroom of Marina Oswald--Marina Oswald's bedroom, and I don't remember where Adamcik went first, but I talked with Ruth Paine a few minutes and she told me that Marina was there and that she was Lee Oswald's wife and that she was a citizen of Russia, and so I called Captain Fritz on the phone and told him what I had found out there and asked him if there was any special instructions, and he said, "Well, ask her about her husband, ask her if her husband has a rifle."
I turned and asked Marina, but she didn't seem to understand. She said she couldn't understand, so Ruth Paine spoke in Russian to her and Ruth Paine also interpreted for me, and she said that Marina said--first she said Marina said "No," and then a minute Marina said, "Yes, he does have."
So, then I talked to Captain Fritz for a moment and hung up the phone and I asked Marina if she would show me where his rifle was and Ruth Paine interpreted and Marina pointed to the garage and she took me to the garage and she pointed to a blanket that was rolled up and laying on the floor near the wall of the garage and Ruth Paine said, "Says that that's where his rifle is."
Well, at the time I couldn't tell whether there was one in there or not. It appeared to be--it was in sort of an outline of a rifle.

Mr. Ball.

You mean the blanket had the outline of a rifle?

Mr. Rose.

Yes; it did.

Mr. Ball.

Was it tied at one end?