Mr. Rose.

I went on duty shortly after the assassination. At the time of the assassination I was not on duty.

Mr. Ball.

Did somebody call you and ask you to come on duty?

Mr. Rose.

No; I came in just as soon as I heard of the shooting--I came on to work.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you go to work?

Mr. Rose.

I reported to the homicide office. It's room 317 at the city hall.

Mr. Ball.

Where did you go then?

Mr. Rose.

There were some people in the office from the Book Depository and we talked to a few of them and then in just a few minutes they brought in Lee Oswald and I talked to him for a few minutes?

Mr. Ball.

What did you say to him or did he say to you?

Mr. Rose.

Well, the first thing I asked him was what his name was and he told me it was Hidell.

Mr. Ball.

Did he tell you it was Hidell?

Mr. Rose.

Yes; he did.

Mr. Ball.

He didn't tell you it was Oswald?

Mr. Rose.

No; he didn't, not right then--he did later. In a minute--I found two cards--I found a card that said "A. Hidell." And I found another card that said "Lee Oswald" on it, and I asked him which of the two was his correct name. He wouldn't tell me at the time, he just said, "You find out." And then in just a few minutes Captain Fritz came in and he told me to get two men and go to Irving and search his house.

Mr. Ball.

Now, when he first came in there--you said that he said his name was "Hidell"?

Mr. Rose.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Was that before you saw the two cards?

Mr. Rose.

Yes; it was.

Mr. Ball.

Did he give you his first name?

Mr. Rose.

He just said "Hidell"; I remember he just gave me the last name of "Hidell".

Mr. Ball.

And then you found two or three cards on him?

Mr. Rose.

Yes; we did.

Mr. Ball.

Did you search him?

Mr. Rose.

He had already been searched and someone had his billfold. I don't know whether it was the patrolman who brought him in that had it or not.

Mr. Ball.

And the contents of the billfold supposedly were before you?

Mr. Rose.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Were you sitting down?

Mr. Rose.

No; I was standing in the interrogation room.

Mr. Ball.

Where was he--was he standing too?

Mr. Rose.

No; he was sitting in the chair.

Mr. Ball.

Was he handcuffed?

Mr. Rose.

Yes; he was.

Mr. Ball.

Were the handcuffs behind or in front of him?

Mr. Rose.

I believe they were behind him--I don't remember for sure.

Mr. Ball.

Who else was present at that time?

Mr. Rose.

Detective Stovall, he was my partner, and I believe both uniformed men were present--two of the uniformed men were present.

Mr. Ball.

The ones who brought him in?

Mr. Rose.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know their names?

Mr. Rose.

I don't remember--I did see McDonald and I did talk to him, but I don't remember whether he was the one that was standing right there at the time or not.

Mr. Ball.

After you saw the cards, you asked him which one was his true name?

Mr. Rose.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Ball.

What did he say?

Mr. Rose.

He said, "You find out."