Mr. Ball.

Well, did he ever deny that he had anything to do with it?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

He did?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did he ever make any admission to you that he had any knowledge of Officer Tippit's death?

Mr. Sims.

Not at all; no, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did he ever make any admission to you that he had any knowledge of the shooting of the President at all?

Mr. Sims.

None at all.

Mr. Ball.

When he did talk to you about his life in Russia, what did you say?

Mr. Sims.

Well, I would ask him where he lived and he told me.

Mr. Ball.

What did he tell you?

Mr. Sims.

Well, I've forgotten the name of the town he said he lived in.

Mr. Ball.

Irving, Tex.?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; in Russia.

Mr. Ball.

Oh, in Russia--I see---what did he say?

Mr. Sims.

Well, it was some town I didn't know about it, but he did say he lived in Moscow, I believe it was.

Mr. Ball.

Anything else?

Mr. Sims.

Well, he said he worked in a factory and he liked everything over there except the weather.

Mr. Ball.

Do you remember anything else he said?

Mr. Sims.

Well, no, sir; we talked about--just a general discussion about the cars over there and the appliances, and just talked to him about it.

Mr. Ball.

Did he tell you about his wife?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What did he say?

Mr. Sims.

I don't remember what he said about his wife--he wouldn't talk about her much.

Mr. Ball.

Or his children?

Mr. Sims.

He said he had some children; yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did he say anything else except he had some children?

Mr. Sims.

I believe he said he had--I don't know if he told me he had a brother or not.

Mr. Ball.

There was one time there that you learned that he had a room at 1026 North Beckley--when did you learn that?

Mr. Sims.

I don't know when that was, now, that was found out that first day, I believe. Another officer went out and searched his room and also went to Irving, I believe.

Mr. Ball.

The officers went out and searched the room sometime that afternoon, around 3:30.

Mr. Sims.

That's right, I believe so.

Mr. Ball.

Can you tell me whether or not you are the one that found out he had a room at 1026 North Beckley?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Ball.

He didn't tell you that?

Mr. Sims.

No, sir; I don't believe he did.

Mr. Ball.

All right. Did he tell you that his wife lived in Irving, Tex.?

Mr. Sims.

I don't remember if he told me that or not.

Mr. Ball.

Now, the first showup was at what time?

Mr. Sims.

At 4:05.

Mr. Ball.

How did you conduct that showup?

Mr. Sims.

Well, we took Oswald down with us with the two police officers.

Mr. Ball.

What two police officers?

Mr. Sims.

Clark and Perry.

Mr. Ball.

You say you took him down--where was he when you took him down?

Mr. Sims.

He was in our office, Captain Fritz' office.

Mr. Ball.

That would be on the second floor?

Mr. Sims.

Third floor.

Mr. Ball.

On the third floor?

Mr. Sims.

Yes, sir.