Mr. Belin.

Did you. see the President's motorcade at all on that day?

Mr. Rackley.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Belin.

Were you standing with anyone there?

Mr. Rackley.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

With whom?

Mr. Rackley.

With James Romack. I and him had walked out.

Mr. Belin.

You had walked out?

Mr. Rackley.

I heard the siren; the parade was coming.

Mr. Belin.

You heard sirens?

Mr. Rackley.

Yes, sir. And I had walked out in front of the place to where could get a better view, as a fellow says.

Mr. Belin.

Where were you standing?

Mr. Rackley.

Well, I had walled out in the truck lot.

Mr. Belin.

In the truck lot?

Mr. Rackley.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

And was that---

Mr. Rackley.

You might say would have been in the middle of the street.

Mr. Belin.

Would that have been in the middle of Houston Street?

Mr. Rackley.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

In what direction were you facing?

Mr. Rackley.

Facing south.

Mr. Belin.

All right, did you see the motorcade at all?

Mr. Rackley.

No.

Mr. Belin.

What did you see?

Mr. Rackley.

I didn't practically see anything.

Mr. Belin.

Did you hear any sounds at all?

Mr. Rackley.

Yes. Heard the sounds of the parade.
Mr. BELIN. Did you hear the sounds that sounded like firecrackers or shots at all?

Mr. Rackley.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Didn't hear that?

Mr. Rackley.

No.
Mr. BELIN. About how far would you have been from the northeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository when you were standing there?

Mr. Rackley.

I would say right at a block.

Mr. Belin.

About a block. Do you have any idea about how many feet that is?

Mr. Rackley.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Belin.

Were you just standing there, or were you walking?

Mr. Rackley.

I was just standing there.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see anything happen at all there?

Mr. Rackley.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see anyone in the parade?

Mr. RACKLEY. The only thing--I told the guy, he was down there, the only thing that I saw that looked suspicious to me, there was something like a hundred pigeons flew up like you shot into them, and I noticed that, but I never heard no shots.

Mr. Belin.

Where did you see them fly from?

Mr. Rackley.

From over the top of the building.

Mr. Belin.

Which building? The School Book Depository or over on the side?

Mr. Rackley.

The Trinity Building.

Mr. Belin.

Which building did they fly off of?

Mr. Rackley.

I wasn't looking. I just seen they all flew together.

Mr. Belin.

Did it look like they were flying up from both buildings?

Mr. Rackley.

Both buildings.

Mr. Belin.

You don't know about when this took place?

Mr. Rackley.

No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BELIN. About what time was it that you were looking that way, do you remember, offhand?
Mr. RACKLEY. No; but it was just at the time that the parade was nearing there, I know that.