Mr. Specter.

as Commission Exhibit No. 392, which is the report of Parkland Hospital on the treatment of President Kennedy and Governor Connally, and I show you a Parkland Memorial Hospital operative record, dated November 22, 1963, which lists you as the surgeon, and ask you whether or not this represents the report made by you on the operative procedures on Governor Connally?
Dr. SHIRES. Yes; it does.

Mr. Specter.

And, are those the same as the matters which you have heretofore described during the course of this deposition as to what you did?
Dr. SHIRES. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. Now, what treatment, if any, have you performed on Governor Connally subsequent to November 22?
Dr. SHIRES. A tremendous amount---postoperative care was of the essence here in that he had multiple injuries, massive blood and fluid replacement, so that to describe the care is really a detail of postoperative---I don't know how much of this you want---in other words, he had clotting defects---I don't know whether you want to take this down---I just want to ask you how much detail you would like?
Mr. SPECTER. Start off with a general description---perhaps, I will direct your attention to some specific areas to abbreviate it. First of all, how frequently did you see him after November 22, 1963?
Dr. SHIRES. For the first several days I saw him approximately every 2 to 4 hours for an hour or so each visit, and many times for 6 and 8 hours at a stretch.

Mr. Specter.

And after that time how frequently did you see him?
Dr. SHIRES. Decreasing frequency over the next 3 weeks---never less than three or four times a day, even after he was convalescing.

Mr. Specter.

How long was he in the hospital?
Dr. SHIRES. I don't really know the number of days he was in the hospital.

Mr. Specter.

After he left the hospital, have you seen him?

Dr. SHIRES. Yes: I saw him again approximately 2 weeks, I guess it was, after he left the hospital, in Austin. He developed a superficial saphenous thrombophlebitis in the right leg, not the one that the injury occurred in. This was undoubtedly incident to a catheter cutdown having been placed in this leg for administration of blood and fluids while he was in the hospital. He unequivocably had a clot in the saphenous vein and at this time was placed on bed rest, antibiotics, anticoagulants and responded very satisfactorily

Mr. Specter.

Do you anticipate seeing him in the future?
Dr. SHIRES. Do I?

Mr. Specter.

Yes.
Dr. SHIRES. Not for his wounds. No--the only followup care that he really requires at the moment is the bone---the orthopedic followup, which incidentally is also completely healed.
Mr. SPECTER. Doctor, look, if you will, at a document which we have marked Dr. Gregory X-l, used in the course of the deposition of Dr. Gregory, which immediately preceded yours and directing your attention first to Diagram Number 1, would the entry and exit holes on Governor Connally's back and chest, being entry and exit, respectively, and the exit and entry on the wrist
with the entry being on the back side of the wrist and the exit on the front side of the wrist, correspond with your observations of Governor Connally .
Dr. SHIRES. Yes; they would

Mr. Specter.

Now, going to Diagram 2, which depicts a man standing, would that correspond to the angle of the entry and exit wounds?
Dr. SHIRES. Yes.

Mr. Specter.

Now, going to Diagram No. 3, would that diagram correspond with the wounds on Governor Connally as you recollect them to be?
Dr. SHIRES. Yes.

Mr. Specter.

Going now to Diagram 4, would that again correspond with the wounds on Governor Connally ?
Dr. SHIRES. Yes.

Mr. Specter.

And as to Diagram No. 5, what does that represent?
Dr. SHIRES. This, at the time of the discussion of Governor Connally's injuries with his wife, before he really regained consciousness from surgery, was the