And under what circumstances have you viewed those before, please?
Dr. OLIVIER. There were, the two larger fragments were recovered outside of the skull in the cotton waste we were using to catch the fragments without deforming them. There are some smaller fragments in here that were obtained from the gelatin within the cranial cavity after the experiment. We melted the gelatin out and recovered the smallest fragments from within the cranial cavity.

Mr. Specter.

Now, I show you two fragments designated as Commission Exhibits 567 and 579 heretofore identified as having been found on the front seat of the President's car on November 22, 1963, and ask you if you have had an opportunity to examine those before.
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.

Mr. Specter.

And have you had an opportunity to compare those to the two fragments identified as Commission Exhibit 857?
Dr. OLIVIER. Yes, I have.

Mr. Specter.

And what did that comparison show?
Dr. OLIVIER. They are quite similar. These two fragments on, what is the number?

Mr. Specter.

857.
Dr. OLIVIER. On 857 there isn't as much of the front part in this one, but in other respects they are very similar.

Mr. Specter.

I now hand you a photograph marked Commission Exhibit 858 and ask you what that depicts.

Mr. Dulles.

Could I see that other exhibit?
Dr. OLIVIER These are the same fragments as marked 857.

Mr. Specter.

That is a photograph of the fragments marked 857?
Dr. OLIVIER 857.

Mr. Specter.

I now hand you a photograph marked Commission Exhibit 859 and ask you what that depicts?
Dr. OLIVIER. These are the smaller fragments that have been labeled, also, Exhibit 857. This picture or some of the fragments labeled 857, these are the smaller fragments contained in the same box.

Mr. Specter.

Are all of the fragments on 859 contained within 857?
Dr. OLIVIER. They are supposed to be, photographed and placed in the box. If they dropped out they are supposed to be all there.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Dulles.

Back on the record.

Mr. Specter.

At what point on the skull did the bullet, which fragmented into Commission Exhibit 857, strike?
Dr. OLIVIER. I would have to see the picture. I mean I can't remember exactly what point. I can tell you the point we were aiming at and approximately where it hit.

Mr. Specter.

Permit me to make available a photograph to you, then, for purposes of refreshing your recollection, and in testifying as to the point which was struck, for that purpose.
Dr. OLIVIER. We did 10 skulls so I can't remember offhand where everyone struck.

Mr. Specter.

For that purpose I hand you Commission Exhibit 860 and ask you if that is designated in any way to identify it.

Mr. Dulles.

This is the test we are talking about now, is it?

Mr. Specter.

Yes, sir; where the bullet fragmented into pieces in 857.

Mr. Dulles.

Are you introducing that into evidence?

Mr. Specter.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

Have you already introduced it in the record?

Mr. Specter.

May I at this point move for the admission into evidence of Commission Exhibits 844 through 860, and they have been identified in sequence as being the photographs, X-rays, and other tangible exhibits used in connection with these tests.

Mr. Dulles.

They shall be admitted.
(The documents heretofore marked for identification as Commission Exhibits Nos. 844 through 860 were received in evidence.)

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