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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. V - Page 458« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of James J. Rowley)

Mr. Rowley.
No, sir; I haven't been informed of any others. And it in the last few days or few weeks we have been getting complaints that we haven't had in many years And I think as I mentioned earlier because of the fact that we are yet careful with the type of men we screen their record has been above reproach over the years. They have conducted themselves in an exemplary manner. My files are replete with commendations on behalf of the agents wherever they have traveled and worked with committees and individuals in connection with Presidential travels, both here and abroad, which testifies to the impression that they have made.
Mr. Rankin.
Have you ever had a Secret Service agent indicted or a complaint filed against him, a criminal complaint, prior to this time?
Mr. Rowley.
This is the first time I remember anything like this happening since I have been with the Secret Service.
Representative Ford.
Mr. Rankin, I don't recall Chief Rowley saying Precisely what the reprimands were specifically for these violations of the regulations in this one instance.
You spoke highly of their background, and you spoke very high in their Praise. But I did not hear what reprimand, if any, had actually been lodged against them.
Mr. Rowley.
There was no reprimand. You are talking about the current thing?
Representative Ford.
I am talking about the Dallas trip.
Mr. Rowley.
I stated in considering what would be an appropriate Punishment' at the time, I felt that these men, by their conduct, had no bearing on the assassination of the President in Dallas. That to institute formal punishment or disciplinary action would inevitably lead the public to conclude that they were responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy. I did not think in the light of history that they should be stigmatized with something like that, or their families or children. And, for that reason, I took the position that I did.
Representative Ford.
So there was no official reprimand or disciplinary action?
Mr. Rowley.
No, sir.
Mr. Rankin.
Did you talk to the agents, to indicate and make it plain to them that this was a violation of the regulations?
Mr. Rowley.
I talked to some of the agents, as did my inspector at the time, who interviewed each and every one of them.
Mr. Rankin.
And I think the Commission would be interested in whether you can be assured, or assure them that the action you took was sufficient so that this would not happen again.
Mr. Rowley.
Well, I am confident that it would not happen again, Mr. Rankin.
Mr. Rankin.
Can you tell us why you think so?
Mr. Rowley.
Because they realize the seriousness of their action.
Initially I can understand the situations they thought they were going for a dinner, buffet, and they got into the place and it wasn't there.
I talked personally with the agents there, and they just thought while they were there they would have a drink. It was one of those situations.
The important thing was that it was pointed out to them this was wrong, this was a violation. These men are young men with futures, they realize the true situation, innocent as they may have seemed to think it was.
But I am quite confident that we will not have a repetition of that.
And in talking to Mr. Behn--I am confident, too, in him--I know that he will see to it that they are well supervised.
Mr. Rankin.
When they are out on a trip of this kind, Chief Rowley, as I understand your regulations, it is understood by the regulations and by the Secret Service that they are on duty all the time that is, subject to call?
Mr. Rowley.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Rankin.
And even though it is late in the evening or they had gone to bed in the early hours of the morning, they could be called to go on duty and perform their responsibility of taking care of the President or the Vice President, or whoever they are charged with; is that right?
Mr. Rowley.
That is right.
Mr. Rankin.
So that do they understand that when they are out on that kind of duty, they are subject to call at all times, and anything they do contrary to
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