Mr. Wade.

of a feeling that all the agencies were to some extent on the spot, I think, your FBI, your Secret Service. I think that bred cooperation rather than antagonism. I don't know of any antagonism. I think the biggest fault with the investigation was your press and television.
I don't think there is any question that you people up here deal with it. But you take a chief of police, a little chief of police, or a little district attorney down there who is not used to having all, everybody, calling you all hours of the night and asking you questions, and then if you sneeze, write a front page story about what you said, with no way to deny it, you know, and I think the press was the biggest thing that caused--I don't think they ever ought to have been in the police department to begin with. I would have liked to have kept them out of the courtroom. The judge announced that he was going to have them in the courtroom, but I was instrumental in keeping them out.

Mr. Dulles.

When we were in Dallas, it was suggested to us that the press, radio, and news media kind of took possession of city hall there, and it was a question of throwing them out by force of arms or leaving them there. Do you have any comment on that?

Mr. Wade.

I don't know how they got in. I don't see how they could run those big cables right through the chief of police's office there without somebody giving them permission. However, I have no way of knowing how they got in.

Mr. Dulles.

It was suggested to us that the chief of police was out at the airport and did not get back, and found them in there when he got back at 3 o'clock.

Mr. Wade.

How they got in I have no idea, but the whole mechanics of the thing--for instance, in the homicide office, the whole office you probably have seen it--I don't imagine it is as big as this room. It is cut up into little offices.

Mr. Dulles.

I was in there; yes.

Mr. Wade.

If you know, when I Went into the office, went into that office there Friday night, you had to push people back to open the door to get out. You had police having to move the crowd, and they were just stacked down that corridor, and it was a situation that should not have developed.
Of course, you have a situation where the press yell that the American people have a right to know their President had been assassinated. I don't say there are not two sides to the situation, but I think when they get to interfering with the processes of law there is bound to be a middle ground or some way to work it out. I can't solve it.

Mr. Dulles.

So far as you know, have all documents of any evidence, of any kind whatsoever, collected by State and local authorities in Texas been turned over to the Federal authorities and the President's Commission?

Mr. Wade.

So far as I know they have. We have either sent it to the Commission or to Mr. Waggoner Cart, and I assume whatever he gets he sends to you all. I don't know of any documents; I don't know whether--you don't have a transcript of the trial, but that will be testimony.

The Chairman.

How long was the transcript, Mr. Wade?

Mr. Wade.

I don't know how many pages. I don't think--we don't have our copy of it. We ordered a copy, and so---he filed a pauper's oath, so I don't have any idea how long it will be. It was about 2 weeks of testimony, an argument, and also 2 weeks of picking the jury. They took all that down, all questioning of prospective jurors, so all that will be in the transcript.

The Chairman.

Will that all be in the record on appeal?

Mr. Wade.

Yes, sir.

The Chairman.

Have they made any extra copies, do you know?

Mr. Wade.

I know they are making some extra copies that have been bought by individuals, I believe Life magazine, some of those magazines have ordered a copy.

The Chairman.

I see; yes.

Mr. Wade.

We are having to pay for ours. We are having to pay for ours, and, of course, we will handle that, we will use that when briefing our case on appeal.

The Chairman.

Do you know what it will cost? You don't know that yet?

Mr. Wade.

I think--we think---our copy will be $3,000. I mean I have got that figure in my mind, because the Commissioners' Court kicked about us having