Mr. Wade.

No; I am not. I remember seeing some officer wave that I gun around. I was tying it into Chief Curry but it could have been the day before, because that gun actually should have still been in Washington on the 23d.

Mr. Rankin.

Yes.

Mr. Wade.

I am deducting, I think probably that I saw someone else with the gun, rather than Chief Curry.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you in any press conference describe anything about paraffin tests?

Mr. Wade.

I told them they gave him paraffin tests. I believe that---I am not positive what I told them, but what I was told, they found paraffin on one hand---powder showed positive on one hand. I don't know which one, but I remember the police told me the paraffin test was positive on one hand. I don't know which hand.

Mr. Rankin.

Did you indicate what that meant in terms of the effect on crime or its investigation?

Mr. Wade.

Well, of course, it meant that a man had fired a gun if they find powder on his hands. I assume I have told them that. I think that was Sunday night when we were laying out the evidence, so far as I know. I don't think that was prior to his being killed. It was, it shouldn't have been done, but I think that was Friday night.

Mr. Rankin.

That is all I have, Mr. Chief Justice. Mr. Dulles has a few questions.

The Chairman.

Mr. Dulles, do you have some questions you would like to ask Mr. Wade?

Mr. Dulles.

Mr. Chief Justice, Mr. Ford, believing I was the only one going to be here during the interrogation--during the entire session this morning--gave me a few questions and asked me to tell you he was very sorry he could not be here today, but he will be here tomorrow.

The Chairman.

Yes.

Mr. Dulles.

A great many of these questions have already been covered. I will just run over them briefly.
You have testified as to a telephone call that the attorney general received from Washington, what he told you about that. Did you have anything further to add to that?

Mr. Wade.

No, sir; I believe we have covered that all right. I was trying to think. In the course of this thing, during all this investigation, I have talked to Cliff Carter in the White House, or at least he used to be but I don't think we talked then on it. I think it was later, the next day, and then 2 or 3 days later, as I recall, but I believe right after they got back to Washington, I got a call from Cliff Garter wondering whether they had the person, or something, but Cliff was one of President Johnson's aides.

Mr. Dulles.

Yes.

Mr. Wade.

And I have talked with him later, I think, on, I don't know, I don't think it concerned any of these problems, but I am just talking out loud with you, but we have covered that fully and, I believe, the attorney general told you that he had talked to somebody in the White House about it and called me, I think that is where he told me where he had----

Mr. Dulles.

There were no other messages other than these messages that you mentioned with Cliff Garter, is that right?

Mr. Wade.

Yes; I talked to him, but I don't think it concerned this problem. I think it was on a--as a matter of fact, I think it was after Ruby had shot Oswald when I talked to him, but it is one of those things 1 can't remember. I hope you don't think I am trying not to tell you, I don't mind telling you anything, but talking to you that I got a call every 5 minutes, and so I don't know, mostly the press calling, you know.

Mr. Dulles.

Was the conduct of the investigation of the assassination hindered by any possible overlapping of jurisdiction between Federal, State, and local authorities? You have dealt with that in a general way. Do you have anything more to say on that point?

Mr. Wade.

Well, I think the investigation of the assassination was carried on in a rather cooperative manner between all the agencies concerned. I think this cooperation was more than generally you would have. It was born out