Mr. Stern.

May we have this report, Mr. Chairman, which has been marked for identification 824, admitted?

Representative Ford.

It may be admitted.
(The document referred to, previously marked as Commission Exhibit No. 824 for identification, was received in evidence.)

Mr. Stern.

Mr. Fain, I show you a document, a letter from Director Hoover with attachments, which has been marked for identification Commission No. 825. Would you turn to the last two pages and can you tell us what the last two pages constitute?

Mr. Fain.

The last two pages constitute an affidavit which I gave to the Houston office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Mr. Stern.

Did you make it at the Houston office?

Mr. Fain.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Stern.

What was the occasion of your making this affidavit?

Mr. Fain.

I was Contacted by Mr. Ed Dalrymple, special agent of the FBI, and he explained to me that he would like to talk to me about this matter. He said he had had an inquiry concerning whether or not I had ever paid this man, Lee Oswald, any money for any information and he asked me if I would be willing to give an affidavit and I said I certainly would be glad to. I came down to the office and gave this affidavit to him on January 29, 1964.

Mr. Stern.

Is there anything you would like to add to this affidavit or any correction you would like to make in it at this time?

Mr. Fain.

No, sir; I do not.

Mr. Stern.

When you talk about an informant, does that term mean to you only someone who receives money for information?

Mr. Fain.

No, they have an informant that would furnish information without compensation. Informant in the generally accepted term is anyone who would furnish information to the FBI.

Mr. Stern.

When you say no effort was made to recruit Lee Harvey Oswald's services in any capacity on behalf of the FBI or any other Government agency, you mean for Compensation or otherwise?

Mr. Fain.

Oh, yes. That was my understanding for the reason of this a-davit was whether or not I had ever paid him or offered to pay him any money, remuneration or compensation for any information and certainly there had been no effort to recruit him along that line at all and no payment had ever been made to him.

Mr. Stern.

Would you consider then the same question but without the element of compensation: Had you ever made any effort to recruit his services without Compensation?

Mr. Fain.

Well, we, of course, interviewed him a couple of times and asked him for information and told him that if he were ever contacted by any Soviet individuals or under any suspicious circumstances to be sure and let us know about it.

Mr. Stern.

Did you ever ask him to do anything more than that for you?

Mr. Fain.

No, sir.

Mr. Stern.

Did you ever ask him to try to become a member of any group for you?

Mr. Fain.

No, sir; no, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

Did he agree to supply the information?

Mr. Fain.

He promised to; yes, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

In case he should be approached?

Mr. Fain.

He said he would cooperate with us.

Mr. Stern.

The last paragraph of your affidavit describes his attitude as arrogant and hostile. Did you say that on the basis of both interviews with him?

Mr. Fain.

Predominantly as a result of the first, and frankly as I said a while ago, he was and continued to be evasive as to his reason for ever having gone over there, and I consider that uncooperative.

Mr. Stern.

But did you feel he was arrogant and hostile at the time of the second interview?

Mr. Fain.

Not so much as he was the first. I would say he was more so, more arrogant and hostile at the first interview.