Mr. Cole.

on my own volition to tear down the stamps that were in this in order to set up other type.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you examine the stamp impression appearing on the right-hand side of the interior of the Document 813?

Mr. Cole.

I did.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you come to any conclusion as to that stamp?

Mr. Cole.

Yes; this stamp includes wording which reads in reverse, and there is a double stamping of the wording, and the text is "BRUSH IN CAN," the three words, "BRUSH IN CAN." The word "BRUSH" extends in approximately a semicircle across the upper part of the stamp and the words "IN CAN" in a semicircle across the lower part.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Can you think of any explanation of why those words should appear?

Mr. Cole.

Yes; a possible explanation is that the object used to make the stamped impression was the top of some container of a solvent or cleaning fluid with raised lettering, and that the top of this can was pressed against a stamped pad, and then pressed against this document.

Mr. Eisenberg.

What would the object be?

Mr. Cole.

Well, I think it is very common to see rubber-stamped impressions on documents of this particular character. They are so commonplace, I think that it is probably a habit or custom among most people not to read them. They may be regarded as giving a document an official appearance. That may be the purpose of getting some sort of stamp onto the document.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Why do the letters appear in reverse, Mr. Cole?

Mr. Cole.

Well, they would naturally appear in reverse. If they read correctly in raised letters as the top of some container, if it was intended that they be read correctly there, then they would naturally be in reverse from the stamped impression. Of course, you will observe that in this Warrior stamping kit the material set up in the rubber stamp there is in reverse, which produces correct reading and writing from an impression. There is one more feature of this particular stamp I think ought to be mentioned.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Yes, please.

Mr. Cole.

There is toward the center of that stamp a rectangle of a deposit of ink in a certain pattern, sort of a spotty mottled pattern of ink, and this corresponds to the pattern of the blank parts of the date stamp.

Mr. Eisenberg.

Which date stamp is that?

Mr. Cole.

The Warrior stamping kit includes a dating stamp, and on the adjustable bands there are certain blank areas. Now, the pattern on those blank areas is similar to the pattern which we have in this rectangle of the stamp just discussed.

Mr. Mccloy.

May I ask, this Post Office Box 30016, is that----

Mr. Eisenberg.

Yes; that corresponds----

Mr. Mccloy.

Does it correspond to the one he used in New Orleans?

Mr. Eisenberg.

I am about to introduce an exhibit which shows Post Office Box 30061, that is, the last two figures reversed, and I imagine his spelling accounts for that.

Mr. Cole.

I now show you an item consisting of a part of an application for Post Office Box 30061 in New Orleans, dated June 11, 1963, with a postmark, signed "L H. Oswald," and in the part of the box captioned "Names of persons entitled to receive mail through box" and so forth, the words are written "A. J. Hidell, Marina Oswald," and I ask you whether you have examined that item?

Mr. Cole.

I have.

Mr. Eisenberg.

May I have this item admitted, Mr. Chairman, as 817?

Mr. Mccloy.

Let it be admitted.
(The item referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 817, and received in evidence.)

Mr. Eisenberg.

Did you compare this with the standards to determine who wrote the writing on that exhibit, or more accurately, whether the printing and writing was produced by the same person who produced the printing and writing on the standards?